About this episodeMichelle Pfeiffer discusses her career longevity, attributing her success to a shift from self-critical perfec…AI summary
Michelle Pfeiffer discusses her career longevity, attributing her success to a shift from self-critical perfectionism to present-moment discovery in her acting process. She highlights the industry's evolution regarding roles for women and shares anecdotes about working with icons like Al Pacino and Brian De Palma, emphasizing the importance of authenticity and personal boundaries in balancing a high-profile career with family life.
Key takeaways 5
Acting Philosophy Shift: Pfeiffer stopped watching her own dailies because she was 'super critical' and would only find negatives, which created a destructive loop. She now focuses on 'discovery' and being present in the moment, which she believes makes her performances better and more fearless.
Industry Evolution for Women: The landscape for actresses has improved significantly due to the rise of streaming and television, which offer more substantial roles for women of all ages. This contrasts with the past when movie stars were discouraged from doing TV work.
Work-Life Balance Strategy: To manage a busy schedule while maintaining her marriage to David Kelly, she requires him to travel with her rather than visiting for short periods. This ensures they remain connected despite the demands of filming.
Overcoming Audition Anxiety: During her audition for Scarface, Pfeiffer performed poorly due to fear of Al Pacino's disapproval. Her breakthrough came when she adopted an attitude of 'I don't give a f***,' leading to a raw, authentic performance that secured the role.
Career Longevity: Pfeiffer attributes her enduring relevance to focusing on talent over beauty early in her career, allowing her to avoid the 'end of relevance' trap that often affects actresses who rely solely on their looks.
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“I realized I have a finite amount of time left... giving up that angst about the process has freed me up. And I feel in some ways has made me better.”
Pfeiffer explains how becoming a grandmother and aging helped her let go of perfectionism and enjoy acting more.
“It's just is completely undermines you. So as much as disappointed as I was I was so happy to be done with it... I show up and I don't even give a f*** because I know I'm not getting this part.”
▶ 49:47Describing her initial failed auditions for Scarface and how letting go of fear led to her best work.
“There's something amazing for me about showing up and just it's about discovery... you become rather than something happening spontaneously because you're just going with your instincts and you're in the moment you start copying yourself.”
▶ 23:19Pfeiffer contrasts spontaneous, instinctual acting with the trap of trying to recreate past successful moments.
“I'm an all or nothing kind of girl... when I approach things uh and I always like taking on challenges and then I get into it and it's sort of sink or swim and for whatever reason I kind of feed on that.”
Explaining her intense work style and how she manages multiple projects by focusing entirely on the task at hand.
“You have been able to have your talent as an actor overshine your your extraordinary beauty from day one... there's no there's no um end of relevance there like it was always about the talent with you.”
▶ 31:18Sean praises Pfeiffer for prioritizing craft over appearance, which has sustained her career.
Chapters & Sections (39)▼
0:00Morning Radio Show Cold Open Discussionchapter2
0:00Morning Radio Show Conversation and Humor
1:57Outdated Behavior and Social Cues
5:12Family Conversation and Joke Tellingchapter2
5:12Conversational Dialogue with Jokes and Storytelling
7:01Comedy Sketch with String Joke and Horse Reference
9:44Michelle's Early Career and Fantasy Islandchapter4
9:44Michelle's Acting Career and Fantasy Island
11:29Lost Women on a Deserted Island
12:46Hawaii and Early Acting Career Memories
14:07Actor Career Path and Early Life Experiences
15:38Learning a New Language for Transcriptionchapter2
15:38Language Learning and Transcription Challenges
17:07Celebrity Interview and Fan Interactions
20:14Balancing Acting Career and Personal Lifechapter3
20:14Balancing Acting Career and Personal Life
22:57Actors Reflection on Personal Growth and Improvement
24:26Self-Criticism and Performance Anxiety
25:54The Importance of Spontaneity in Creativitychapter3
25:54Creative Process and Mistakes in Art
28:19Interview with Michelle on Director Importance
29:38Actress Discusses Career and Industry Changes
31:56Actress Discusses Hollywood Scandals and Roleschapter4
31:56Actress Discusses Hollywood Scandals and Roles
33:34Appreciation for Women in Entertainment Industry
35:18Interview with a Veteran Actress
36:56Balancing Work and Marriage Challenges
38:52Actors Discuss Favorite Film and Experiencechapter2
38:52Actors Discuss Film Roles and Experiences
41:24Interview with Actor about Sequel and Performance
43:34Discussion about School and Personal Itemschapter3
43:34Conversation about a School or Job
45:31Scarface Cultural Impact and Remake Discussion
46:51Actress Shares Career Struggles and Self Doubt
48:32Audition Process and Overcoming Fear as Actorchapter4
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