About this episodeThis Smartless podcast episode features actor Jeremy Allen White discussing his career trajectory from Shamele…AI summary
This Smartless podcast episode features actor Jeremy Allen White discussing his career trajectory from Shameless to The Bear, his personal life as a father, and his approach to managing anxiety through focus and family. The hosts, Will Arnett, Jason Bateman, and Sean Hayes, engage in lighthearted banter about relationships, food, and hypothetical roles while promoting their new crime podcast, Crimeless.
Key takeaways 5
Career Transition Anxiety: Jeremy Allen White experienced a panic attack after finishing Shameless due to the loss of routine and community, highlighting the psychological impact of ending long-term employment.
Focus as a Coping Mechanism: White uses acting and being present with his children to quiet his anxious mind, noting that the singular focus required for performance or parenting helps him feel calm and centered.
Industry Luck vs. Preparation: Chris Storer's decision to call White three years after meeting him illustrates the unpredictable nature of Hollywood opportunities, where timing and persistence play crucial roles alongside talent.
Public Life Management: White struggles with the loss of privacy in everyday routines like visiting the farmers market, emphasizing the need to explain fame to children in age-appropriate ways without making them feel ashamed.
Podcast Promotion: The hosts announce 'Crimeless,' a new Smartless Media show hosted by Josh Dean and Rory Scovel, focusing on bizarre criminal stories, releasing on Wednesdays.
Notable quotes 5AI-generated: wording and quote attribution may be wrong. Use the play link to verify.
“I had a full like panic. I had to pull over. My arms went... I was so yeah. It had just been such a comfort and you know I was with those actors for 11 years and I mean they're like my family.”
Jeremy Allen White describing the emotional difficulty of leaving 'Shameless' after 11 seasons.
“It's not my business to pass. I have no right to pass on something this good.”
▶ 35:27White explaining why he accepted the role in 'The Bear' despite initial hesitation about working in Chicago again.
“I feel like a lot of it comes back to control for me. I want to be a local immediately.”
▶ 56:16Sean Hayes explaining his habit of looking at real estate listings while traveling.
“When I'm around my kids that you're forced to just you have to be completely present. It's like... this is where my intention is. This is where I want to be.”
▶ 53:57Jeremy Allen White discussing how fatherhood helps him manage anxiety and stay focused.
“Crimeless. It's like Dum Dums. It's like crime dum dum fing crime.”
▶ 06:29Jason Bateman humorously describing the premise of the new Smartless podcast 'Crimeless'.
Chapters & Sections (142)▼
00:03Marriage Dynamics and Communication Issueschapter2
00:03Morning Greetings and Show Introduction
01:15Marriage and Infidelity Relationship Dynamics
01:44Hypothetical Relationships and Personal Lifechapter
03:08Favorite Cookies and Snacks Discussionchapter2
03:08Powerlifting Training and Competition Schedule
03:34Favorite Cookies and Baking Preferences
04:20Celebrating a Golden Globe Win and Team Appreciationchapter3
04:20On-Set Food and Snack Culture
04:39Appreciation for Team and Award Wins
05:17Travel Arrangements and Scheduling Conflicts
05:44New Smartless Media Show Crimeless Announcedchapter
06:56Celebrity Guest Introduction and Welcomechapter2
06:56Celebrity Guest Introduction and Discussion
07:32Celebrity Recognition and Appreciation
08:23Celebrity Interviews and Personal Relationshipschapter3
08:23Celebrity Relationships and Infidelity in Hollywood
09:01Celebrity Fan Encounter and Food Memories
09:22Food Storage and Preservation Techniques
09:50Home Office Organization and Maintenance Challengeschapter2
09:50Home Office Setup and Organization Challenges
10:26Home Maintenance Issues and Frustrations
11:06New Male Friendships and Their Formationchapter2
11:06New Male Friendships and Their Formation
11:56Origins of a Friendship
12:27Public Transportation and Human Interactionchapter2
12:27Public Transportation and Personal Space
12:52Experiences in Long Baseball Games
13:28Growing Up and Career in the Entertainment Industrychapter3
13:28Seeking Youth and Rejuvenation
13:56Improvement and Personal Growth Expectations
14:16Childhood and Upbringing of the Interviewee
15:20Chicago Food Culture and Personal Experienceschapter3
15:20Chicago Food Culture and Local Favorites
15:44Celebrity Memories of Food References in TV Shows
16:03Early Life Influences on Creative Development
16:51Dancing Background and Experiencechapter2
16:51Childhood Dance Training and Performance Experience
17:43Confidence in Dancing as a Personal Expression
18:19Learning Disco Dance Moves and Rhythmchapter3
18:19Learning Disco Dance Moves in New York
18:44Alternative Nightlife and Music Venues
19:04Early Life in Performing Arts
19:40Discovering Passion for Acting in Middle Schoolchapter3
19:40Early Experiences in Performing Arts Education
20:17Early Experiences in Acting and Drama
20:49The Art of Acting and Performance
21:19Benefits of Focused Attention in Performancechapter2
21:19Benefits of Focused Attention in Acting
22:03Benefits of Focusing on a Single Task
22:35Finding Focus and Passion in Early Lifechapter2
22:35Upcoming Project Release and Focus
23:12Early Theater Experience and Shakespearean Training
23:56Early Career in Acting and Theaterchapter3
23:56Early Career in Off-Broadway Theater
24:23Early Career in Film and Auditions
24:59Learning to Sing and Musical Theater
25:28Acting in Musical Theater and Broadway Productionschapter3
25:28Learning to Sing and Play Guitar
25:59Exploring Musical Theater Career Opportunities
26:26Interest in Movie Sequels and Franchises
26:53Learning to Play a Musical Instrumentchapter2
26:53Learning to Play a Musical Instrument
27:32Musical Influences and Personal Experiences
28:15Career Transition to Los Angeleschapter3
28:15Storing Valuables in a Safe Location
28:36Entrepreneurial Business Ideas and Christmas Traditions
29:05Early Career Breakthrough in Television
29:43Balancing Career and Personal Life in Young Adulthoodchapter2
29:43Consistency in Early Career as an Actor
30:42Balancing Career and Personal Life in 20s
31:27Career Crossroads and Transitioning to New Roleschapter1
31:27Career Crossroads and Transitioning to New Roles
32:33Coping with Career Transition and Losschapter5
32:33Post-Production Process in Television
33:00Overcoming Career Transition Anxiety and Panic
34:10The Power of Prophetic Career Advice in Hollywood
34:54Development of TV Show The Bear
35:27Overcoming Anxiety through Creative Pursuits
35:59TV Production and Filming Practices Comparedchapter1
35:59TV Production and Filming Practices Compared
37:26Career Development and Job Security in Televisionchapter1
37:26Career Development and Job Security in Television
38:46Transitioning from Indie to Mainstream Successchapter3
38:46Job Security and Career Uncertainty
39:14Surprise Success of TV Pilot and Show
39:49TV Show Success and Niche Audience
40:20Balancing Fame and Private Lifechapter2
40:20The Success and Future of The Bear
40:57Balancing Public Life and Personal Privacy
41:43Adjusting to Public Life and Routinechapter1
41:43Adapting to Public Life and Routine
43:05Dealing with Unwanted Attention and Famechapter2
43:05Experiences with Unconventional Living Situations
43:44Managing Fame and Its Effects on Family
44:42Parenting and Setting Boundaries for Childrenchapter2
44:42Observations on Children's Awareness and Safety
45:32Parenting and Balancing Fame with Family Life
46:13Navigating Parenting and Communication Styleschapter2
46:13Parenting Strategies and Communication Techniques
46:58Favorite Restaurants in New York City
47:33Balancing Personal and Professional Responsibilitieschapter3
47:33Balancing Personal and Family Responsibilities
48:04Collaboration and Choosing Projects
48:34Dream Roles in Film and Genre Preferences
48:56Creating a Serial Killer Character Profilechapter3
48:56Portraying a Serial Killer Character in Acting
49:28Portrayal of Violent Characters in Film
49:53Checking Garage and Home Security Measures
50:14Challenges of Stunt Work in Film Productionschapter3
50:14Action Film Scene Development and Scripting
50:50Challenges and Risks of Stunt Work
51:16Considering Time Away from Home
51:41Parenting Challenges and Sleep Deprivationchapter2
51:41Parenting Challenges and Sleep Deprivation
52:16Parenting and Sleep Challenges
53:11Separating Work and Personal Lifechapter2
53:11Separating Work and Personal Life Anxiety
54:05Finding Peace and Focus in Family Life
54:46Obsession with Real Estate and Fantasy Home Ownershipchapter1
54:46Obsession with Real Estate and Fantasy Home Ownership
56:25Cross Country Road Trips and Small Town Encounterschapter3
56:25Exploring Small Towns in the American Desert
57:10Traveling and Life in Small Towns
57:42Driving Experiences and Roadside Emergencies
58:30Pros and Cons of Small Town Livingchapter4
58:30Sleeping in a Car Due to Car Trouble
58:58Pros and Cons of Small Town Living
59:29Real Estate Buying Habits and Challenges
01:00:16Desiring a Slower Pace of Life
01:00:41Rural Life and Personal Escapeschapter3
01:00:41Ranch Life as a Fantasy Scenario
01:01:07Living in New York Suburbs and City
01:01:32Home and Personal Space Boundaries
01:01:57Celebrity Interview and Fan Appreciation Discussionchapter3
01:01:57Celebrity Appreciation and Well Wishes
01:02:30Parent-Child Bonding and Affectionate Moments
01:02:55Food Delivery and Interview Interruptions
01:03:22Relationships and Communication Challengeschapter2
01:03:22Relationship Dynamics and Communication
01:03:44Rescheduling a Event or Performance
01:04:28The Bear Spin-Off and TV Show Discussionchapter