Autumn Ren on Surviving a Shark Attack, Blowing up on OF, Growing Up Catholic
16:48or you do you know like a big name it's one thing it's like I at one point was just interviewing whoever because it was16:54just it was just easy you know you're also interviewing a lot of the girls when there was a way less podcast. Exactly. We're talking like 2018. Yeah.28:27How did that work out? Well, had to redo the audio. It was okay. No, she just didn't have a mic because I was interviewing her
