Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson: Politics, Trump, AOC, Elon & DOGE | Lex Fridman Podcast #462
19:09You can't turn around and say, "Oh, it's gonna be Pete Buttigieg, it's gonna be Josh Shapiro, it's gonna be Gretchen Whitmer."25:47and Bernie Sanders, and Pete Buttigieg, and whomever else, she either would've figured out how to do it, right? Primaries are periods of education,44:21is to be high-risk in talking to virtually everybody. I think Pete Buttigieg in a different way is somebody who wants to take media risks.









