Cliff Obrecht in conversation with John Collison
0:00Canva is an amazing story. I think everyone here is familiar with us uh it.0:30know, we're we've had an exciting 13-year run. We're in the middle of the biggest transition of our whole lives as a company in sort of taking Canva from a0:54How did Canva get to scale? What's the backstory of how you guys got Massive?







