Joe Thomas On “I Wanna Know,” Verzuz & 30 Years Of R&B • R&B MONEY Podcast • Ep.190

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About this episode Joe Thomas discusses his journey from Georgia to Jersey, detailing his early musical beginnings, first record … AI summary

Joe Thomas discusses his journey from Georgia to Jersey, detailing his early musical beginnings, first record deal with Mercury Records, and strategic signing with Jive Records for creative control. He emphasizes the importance of being a multi-instrumentalist to command respect in the studio, shares insights on maintaining vocal health through constant practice, and advocates for stronger collaboration among R&B artists to elevate the genre.

Key takeaways 5
  • Studio Competence: Being able to play instruments and understand production allows an artist to articulate their vision clearly and command respect, similar to how Quincy Jones worked with Michael Jackson.
  • Label Strategy: Joe Thomas chose Jive Records over higher offers because they understood his artistic blueprint and offered creative control, leading to the critically acclaimed sophomore album 'All That I Am'.
  • Vocal Maintenance: Joe Thomas maintains his voice by singing constantly while on the road and recording, rather than relying on specific teas or rituals, noting he has been sober for six months which helps.
  • Industry Collaboration: There is a need for R&B artists to collaborate more frequently (features, tours) to build the genre's momentum, similar to how hip-hop artists support each other.
  • Gospel Respect: Joe Thomas avoids releasing a full gospel album because he feels it requires a level of personal spiritual alignment and lifestyle that he does not want to be judged against, preferring to keep his secular and spiritual lives separate.
Notable quotes 5 AI-generated: wording and quote attribution may be wrong. Use the play link to verify.
  • “I don't like engineers and people in the room. I like to do my own thing. My system is set up where I can just work and go for it.”
    ▶ 10:46 Explaining his preference for recording vocals independently to maintain creative flow and control.
  • “If you're going to sing about God... you got to take that walk with him too. You got to be on that same page. And knowing that I wasn't there... it might be a little hippie.”
    ▶ 11:16 Explaining why he has not released a full gospel album despite his church background.
  • “I was trying to go at everybody's neck. I didn't care who it was... R Kelly, Aaron Hall, Bobby Brown... Y'all ain't got nothing on me.”
    ▶ 15:33 Describing the competitive mindset he had when recording his first album.
  • “When you put God first, great things happen. Always remember that.”
    ▶ 1:01:58 Joe Thomas attributing his success and ability to charge high production fees to his faith.
  • “I'm more of a Barry White... with the silk and sadness. I'm definitely a waist coat kind of guy here.”
    ▶ 41:57 Describing the style and aesthetic of the 'Voltron' R&B artist he would create.

Chapters & Sections (49)

0:01 Joe Thomas Early Musical Beginnings chapter 2
2:29 Joe Thomas Hometown and Father's Ministry
3:40 Early Auditions and Church Music
4:56 Early Music Career and Jersey Connections chapter 2
6:15 First Publishing Deal and Music Store Work
7:41 Early Studio Work and Production Skills
9:02 Musical Instrumentation, Gospel Respect, and First Record Deal chapter 2
10:41 Recording Setup and Gospel Artistry Standards
11:37 First Record Deal and Trusting the Process
13:02 Early Career Deals and First Album Mindset chapter 1
14:44 First Album Mindset and Competitive Drive
17:23 Signing Jive Records and Creative Control chapter 1
18:52 Nashville Songwriting and Producer Control
21:31 Love Don't Make No Sense and New Album chapter 2
23:27 Solo Project and Production Credits
25:04 Collaboration with Joshua Thompson
26:36 Touring History, Vocal Care, and Social Media chapter 2
28:09 Performance Style and Vocal Maintenance
29:52 Simple Pre-Show Routines and Social Media Avoidance
31:21 R&B Touring, Ego, and Album Creation chapter 2
32:49 Eric Bellinger Collaboration and Album Mindset
34:19 Balancing Commercial Appeal and Vocal Complexity
37:18 R&B Tempo Hits and Kelis Competition chapter 2
38:44 R&B Tempo Hits and Big Voice Challenges
39:41 Rivalry with Kelis and G Unit Bond
41:50 Faith, Friendship, and Big Rich Town chapter 3
43:09 Importance of Faith and Conscience
44:22 Gratitude, Faith, and Gospel Music Pressure
46:02 Big Rich Town Theme Song Origin
47:57 Growing Up in Jersey and Early Music Industry chapter 1
50:03 Strategic Career Moves and Label History
52:09 Independent Release Strategy and Musical Ambitions chapter 3
53:26 Catalog Acquisitions and Spiritual Guidance
54:44 Independent Distribution and Vinyl Production
56:07 Tiny Desk Concert and Release Plans
58:00 R&B Production Fees and Hit Song Economics chapter 1
1:00:16 Production Fees and Hit Song Economics
1:01:51 Black Men United Legacy and R&B Longevity chapter 1
1:03:50 Vocal Purity and Industry Longevity
1:05:51 R&B Artists Collaboration and Support chapter 1
1:08:12 Mentorship and Industry Support
1:10:02 R&B Camaraderie and Top Influences chapter 2
1:11:35 Top Five R&B Singers and Songs
1:12:56 Top R&B Vocalists and Greatest Songs
1:15:25 Building The Ultimate R&B Artist chapter 4
1:17:36 R&B Performance Style and Passion
1:19:10 Holland Dozzer Production Legacy
1:20:39 Gambling Session in New York City
1:21:45 Studio Gambling and Cash Stories

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