About this episodeThis Smartless podcast episode features a comedic opening between hosts Will Arnett and Sean Hayes discussing …AI summary
This Smartless podcast episode features a comedic opening between hosts Will Arnett and Sean Hayes discussing grocery shopping habits, followed by an in-depth interview with actress Julia Garner. Garner discusses her career trajectory from starting at age 16, her Emmy-winning role in Ozark, and her upcoming projects like Fantastic Four and Weapons. Key themes include the importance of process over results in acting, the value of discomfort for artistic growth, and the unique challenges of auditioning and working on major film sets.
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Julia Garner emphasizes that winning awards like Emmys does not change one's personal life or solve underlying problems; the real value lies in the artistic process and experience rather than the result.
Garner attended clown school in France during the strike, where she learned that 'failure is the friend of the clown,' reinforcing her belief that artists must constantly seek discomfort to remain effective and avoid stagnation.
The acting industry has shifted from spontaneous camaraderie among actors in audition waiting rooms to a more professionalized, less personal dynamic.
Sean Hayes reveals he still engages in grocery shopping but admits to buying 'garbage' food (snacks, sodas) as a form of independence after growing up in a strict healthy household, though he is now trying to find balance.
Julia Garner's early career was marked by intense luck and opportunity, including meeting Fred Ross (producer of The Godfather) and auditioning for Paul Thomas Anderson's The Master at age 16, despite having a severe eye infection.
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“Failure is the friend of the clown.”
▶ 32:46Julia Garner shares advice from her clown school teacher in France, highlighting the importance of embracing failure and humility in art.
“I just needed to I have to constantly make myself feel uncomfortable and that's going to make me feel comfortable as an artist. Like if I feel any sort of comfortability, I don't like then something's deeply wrong.”
▶ 35:26Garner explains her philosophy on maintaining artistic integrity and avoiding complacency by seeking out challenging experiences.
“Actors are just a bunch of people who are bad at everything else.”
▶ 24:33Sean Hayes jokes about why so many people become actors, suggesting it's because they lack skills in other conventional fields.
“The next day after winning an Emmy... it was not depressing but it made you look at how important the process is and the experience rather than the result.”
▶ 30:11Garner reflects on the fleeting nature of award recognition and how it reinforces the importance of the work itself.
“I grew up in a house that was very very sort of quote healthy... so once I moved out, I bought all the garbage. It's almost like when you get older and you're on your own, it's something feels good about not having to ask permission to get eaten whatever you want.”
▶ 3:59Sean Hayes explains his childhood grocery shopping habits and the psychological relief of having autonomy over his diet as an adult.
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