Selena Gomez on Living with a Mind that Swings

Jay Shetty Podcast
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About this episode Selena Gomez discusses her journey with bipolar disorder, reframing it from a condition to manage into a 'frie… AI summary

Selena Gomez discusses her journey with bipolar disorder, reframing it from a condition to manage into a 'friend' through therapy, medication, and self-compassion. She emphasizes the importance of controlling one's public narrative by leading with love and honesty rather than defensiveness, and finding value in imperfection both personally and professionally.

Key takeaways 6
  • Reframing the Inner Critic: Gomez describes a decade-long process of moving from viewing her bipolar disorder and inner critic as enemies to treating them as 'friends' through dialectical behavior therapy (DBT) and cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT).
  • The Snake Skin Analogy: Growth and letting go of old selves should be a gentle, non-aggressive process, similar to a snake slithering out of its skin, rather than a violent ripping away.
  • Leading with Love in Public Narrative: When facing negative press or public scrutiny, the most effective strategy is to combat it with kindness and truth rather than defensiveness, which requires immense self-assurance.
  • Embracing Imperfection in Creativity: Mistakes in the studio or on set (such as misremembering a line or a lyrical error) can become the most memorable parts of a performance, proving that imperfection can lead to 'magic' moments.
  • Small Environmental Adjustments: Mood management involves small, actionable changes like altering what TV shows or music one consumes to avoid triggering anxiety or 'cliffhanger chemicals' that disrupt sleep.
  • Finding Comfort in New Places: Despite hating change, Gomez found that exposing herself to new environments (like living in New York for months for 'Only Murders in the Building') helped break patterns of fear and anxiety.
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  • “I have bipolar. I just learn how to live with it and I just have made it my friend because that's truly what it can be to me now.”
    ▶ 0:00 Gomez explains her fundamental shift in perspective regarding her mental health diagnosis.
  • “Snakes don't break out. They don't rip their skin off. They slither out and their skin just kind of like falls away.”
    ▶ 3:42 Using an analogy from her time as a monk to describe how letting go of old identities should be a gentle process.
  • “I don't want to waste my time being upset or um taking in all of the negative things that I hear online... I don't want to be that kind of public figure. I want to be someone that hopefully could be a friend that could just disarm you from the celebrity-esque part of it.”
    ▶ 10:52 Gomez discusses her choice to reject the perfect celebrity image and instead connect authentically with fans.
  • “There is no perfect way to heal. There is no perfect way of dealing with something. It's more just how am I going to be a better person?”
    ▶ 21:40 Reflecting on her approach to grief and personal growth, emphasizing progress over perfection.
  • “I crave those moments [imperfections]. That's what feels like magic... when the imperfection can somehow become a part of the process where you're just like, 'Wow, this actually feels like we got somewhere.'”
    ▶ 20:43 Explaining how she embraces mistakes in her creative work as they often lead to the best artistic results.

Chapters & Sections (12)

0:00 Living with Bipolar Disorder and Inner Critic chapter 2
2:31 Acceptance and Letting Go of Old Selves
3:59 Self-Compassion and Personal Responsibility
5:41 Managing Mood and Public Narrative chapter 1
8:33 Controlling Narrative with Love and Honesty
11:20 Press Fatigue and Humanizing Celebrity chapter 2
13:25 Press Fatigue and Clickbait Questions
15:09 Rejecting Celebrity Perfection
17:44 Embracing Imperfection in Life and Work chapter 1
20:22 Finding Purpose in Imperfection and Healing
22:59 Embracing Change and Finding Comfort in New Places chapter 1
26:11 Overcoming Fear of Change and Anxiety

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