About this episodeDavid Cross and Rick Glassman discuss Cross's new comedy special 'The End of the Beginning of the End,' reveal…AI summary
David Cross and Rick Glassman discuss Cross's new comedy special 'The End of the Beginning of the End,' revealing a production dispute where a cut opening joke was not restored due to 'picture lock' fees, which Glassman argues was an unnecessary bureaucratic hurdle. The conversation also covers Cross's recent autism diagnosis, his extensive Magic: The Gathering and baseball card collections, and the economics of the trading card market.
Key takeaways 4
Production Dispute: Cross revealed that a Bob Odenkirk voiceover intro was cut from his special because the editors claimed there wasn't enough B-roll to cover the audio gap. Glassman pointed out that the footage could have been easily trimmed or replaced with stock footage, suggesting the 'picture lock' excuse was used to justify charging extra fees for a simple edit.
Autism Diagnosis: David Cross was diagnosed with autism eight years ago. He describes the experience as a 'double-edged sword,' noting advantages like intense focus on specific interests (like card collecting) but disadvantages in reading social cues, citing an incident where he was kicked out of a poker game for being too aggressive.
Trading Card Market Saturation: Glassman and Cross discuss the potential peak of the trading card market (baseball and Magic: The Gathering). They argue that the market relies on a finite number of 'millionaires' willing to spend thousands on hobby boxes, creating a gambling-like dynamic that may not be sustainable long-term.
Magic: The Gathering Mechanics: Cross explains the 'Sealed Draft' format where players open packs, pick cards, and pass them around to build decks, highlighting the strategic depth ('chess meets Dungeons and Dragons') compared to the collectible value of vintage sets like Alpha, Beta, and Antiquities.
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“It's picture locked. Then how did you add the audio in because it's not audio locked? Then just cut the first minute and a half, right? You have to export. We haven't exported it yet.”
▶ 1:00:31Glassman challenging Cross's frustration with the production company's claim that they couldn't easily fix the edited opening without incurring extra costs.
“If it was a she, she would have done it because just be just be considerate.”
▶ 1:15:15Glassman jokingly suggesting that a female editor would have been more accommodating to Cross's request to fix the special's opening.
“It's chess meets Dungeons and Dragons.”
▶ 32:13Cross describing the strategic nature of playing Magic: The Gathering.
“I don't think that makes them a difficult person. I think that makes them somebody that it that is challenging them that for better and for worse maybe.”
▶ 1:28:03Glassman reflecting on why some people in the entertainment industry are labeled 'difficult,' arguing it often stems from advocating for the quality of the product.
Chapters & Sections (49)▼
0:08The Importance of Humor in Everyday Lifechapter1
3:30Debunking Misconceptions About Podcast Editing
5:15Standup Comedy Tour Schedule and Upcoming Showschapter2
6:30Comedy and Parenting as a Grandfather
8:12Childhood Difficulties and Early Interest in Comedy
9:42The Importance of Being Present in the Momentchapter2
11:31Interpreting Metaphorical Story Structure
12:45The Influence of Shakespeare's Phrases on Language
14:00New Project: The End of the Beginning of the Endchapter1
16:07Ad-Free Content Options and Subscription Services
18:06Collecting Magic the Gathering Cards and Figurineschapter1
20:22The Rise and Saturation of Trading Card Markets
22:52The Economics of Collectible Trading Card Industrychapter1
25:32The Commodification of Hobby Cards as Investment
27:26Collecting and Displaying Trading Card Collectibleschapter2
29:02Collecting Rare Magic: The Gathering Cards
30:31Collectible Card Games and Trading Strategies
33:11Benefits of Fiber and Protein in Daily Lifechapter3
35:18Benefits of Using Shopify for E-commerce
36:53Living with Autism: Personal Experience and Diagnosis
38:25Recognizing Social Cues and Autism Diagnosis
40:33Diagnosing Autism in Adults: Challenges and Differenceschapter2
42:32Understanding Autism Spectrum and Its Symptoms
43:54Autism Spectrum Traits and Advantages
45:58Overcoming Involuntary Celibacy through Confidencechapter1
48:08Disney on Ice Ticket Offer
50:22Collecting Sports Cards and Their Conditionchapter2
51:55Collecting and Investing in Trading Cards
53:22Debating Baseball and Foreign Place Names
55:09Encouraging Viewers to Engage with Contentchapter2
56:56Picture Locking and Video Editing Practices
58:19Production Issues with Special Opening Segment
1:01:04Deceptive Business Practices in the Entertainment Industrychapter1
1:03:49Addressing Audio Editing Issues
1:05:29Video Editing and Audio Trimming Techniqueschapter5
1:07:03Understanding the Reference to 'First Base'
1:08:38The Creation and Editing of a Cartoon
1:10:29Post-Production Costs and Creative Decisions
1:11:47Challenges in Post-Production Editing Process
1:13:23Improvisation and Video Production Challenges
1:14:38Cost of Post-Production for Comedy Specialchapter3
1:16:09Addressing Production Mistakes and Communication
1:18:51Video Editing and Revisions for Final Cut
1:20:20Miscommunication in Creative Project Collaboration
1:22:09Editing Disputes and B-Roll Issueschapter4
1:23:48Resolving B-Roll Voiceover Issues in Video Production
1:25:15Overcoming Production Hurdles and Bureaucratic Challenges
1:30:36Editing Decisions in Comedy Specials
1:32:04Film Production Techniques and Color Correction
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