Kate Atkinson in conversation with Susan Orlean at Live Talks Los Angeles

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About this episode Kate Atkinson discusses her novel 'Transcription,' revealing how a declassified MI5 operation inspired the plo… AI summary

Kate Atkinson discusses her novel 'Transcription,' revealing how a declassified MI5 operation inspired the plot and exploring her character-driven approach to writing across genres. She details her disciplined writing routine, including daily word counts and extensive revision, while explaining her structural techniques for managing multiple timelines and her philosophy on the melancholy nature of human existence.

Key takeaways 5
  • Inspiration from Archives: 'Transcription' was sparked by a declassified MI5 operation where fifth columnists were invited to a bugged flat to pass information to a fake German agent (Jack King), allowing MI5 to mine their intelligence without arrest.
  • Structural Skeleton: Atkinson views structure as the 'skeleton' of a novel, with plot and character as the flesh. For 'Life After Life', she used a repetitive 'she lives, she dies' formula to help readers acclimate to the concept before extending the narrative.
  • Writing Discipline: She enforces a strict daily word count (1,000 words) and revises previous work at the start of each session to overcome the 'blank page' anxiety, crediting revision heavily in her daily progress.
  • Character Over Genre: Atkinson resists genre pigeonholing, focusing instead on character depth. She notes that her detective Jackson Brody has a 'female sensibility' and that she avoids killing male characters she has grown attached to.
  • Melancholy as Theme: She identifies a recurring theme of 'shrunken dreams' and the limitation of human life in her work, noting that humans are unique in their awareness of mortality, which informs the melancholy tone of her books.
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  • “I think structure is the thing you start with because everything else fits into structure necessarily... I think of structure as the skeleton and then everything else is the flesh that you put on the bones.”
    ▶ 19:53 Atkinson explains her foundational approach to novel construction, emphasizing that structure enables the organic development of plot and character.
  • “I don't understand it [making a character]... I have absolutely no understanding of how you make a character but I just really like characters... it's really quite an old-fashioned thing to cleave your characters so much.”
    ▶ 35:37 Atkinson admits she cannot scientifically explain character creation but relies on an intuitive, old-fashioned focus on character depth over plot mechanics.
  • “We are the only animal that knows we're going to die and so that does inform all of our thinking... there's a reconciliation goes on as well within that disappointment.”
    ▶ 39:05 Atkinson discusses the philosophical underpinning of her work, linking the universal human condition of mortality to the melancholy tone present in her novels.
  • “If you start off your writing day rewriting previous work you don't have that blank page thing... it's like warming yourself up.”
    ▶ 27:19 A practical tip for overcoming writer's block by using revision as a warm-up exercise rather than facing a fresh, intimidating blank page.

Chapters & Sections (51)

0:12 Introduction to Kate's New Book and Writing Style chapter 3
0:12 Introduction to Kate's New Book and Writing Style
2:18 Workplace Romance and Unrequited Love Developments
3:36 Riverbank Encounter with Wildlife and Nature
5:33 Observations of Wildlife and Nature chapter 2
5:33 Observing and Identifying Wild Birds in Nature
7:17 Romantic Tension in a Desolate Landscape
9:47 Character Insights from Observing Human Behavior chapter 2
9:47 Observing Nature and Interacting with a Stranger
11:39 Food in Literature and Personal Experiences
14:23 MI5 Operation to Capture Fifth Columnists chapter 3
14:23 MI5 Operation to Capture Fifth Columnists
15:37 MI5 Internment of High-Society Individuals
17:12 Inspiration for Writing and Creative Process
18:47 Author's Approach to Writing Structure chapter 3
18:47 Author's Approach to Writing Structure
20:28 Structuring Non-Linear Historical Fiction Narratives
21:51 Novel Structure and Organization Techniques
23:08 Writing Habits and Productivity Techniques chapter 2
23:08 Writing Habits and Productivity Techniques
26:01 The Art of Writing and Revision Techniques
27:45 The Revision Process in Creative Writing chapter 3
27:45 The Revision Process in Creative Writing
29:21 Developing Writing Skills through Practice and Experience
30:44 Overcoming Age and Self-Doubt in Writing
32:49 Genre Boundaries in Writing and Creative Freedom chapter 3
32:49 Genre Definition and Writing Freedom
34:27 Approach to Writing and Character Development
36:02 Author's Emotional Connection to Book Endings
38:00 Human Existence and the Limits of Hope chapter 3
38:00 Existential Melancholy in Human Life and Literature
39:49 Dishonesty and Illusion in Fiction
41:14 Pre-War Paranoia and Unreliable Narrators
42:43 Inspiration Behind Cambridge-Based Mystery Novel chapter 2
42:43 Inspiration Behind Cambridge-Based Cold Case Novel
44:43 Writing About Trauma and Loss in Fiction
47:04 Personal Experiences and Research Methods chapter 3
47:04 Researching Personal Experiences of Historical Events
48:17 Comparing Trauma of War Experiences in England and America
49:37 British Public Opinion During World War II
51:21 Future Plans for Jackson Brodie Series chapter 5
51:21 Future Plans for Crime Fiction Series
53:05 Imagery and Symbolism in Literature
54:45 Writing a Character's Emotional Life and Development
56:22 Incorporating Music and Emotions into Character Development
58:20 Author's Approach to Book Endings and Mystery
59:36 Author's Writing Process and Creative Decisions chapter 4
59:36 Author's Approach to Writing Companion Novels
1:01:28 Writing Influences and Creative Process
1:02:41 Writing Style and Narrative Techniques
1:04:15 Balancing Research and Writing in Historical Fiction

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