Janelle Monáe: We Should Thank Our Exes

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About this episode Janelle Monáe discusses her journey from an 'age of fear' to the 'age of pleasure,' detailing how she healed a… AI summary

Janelle Monáe discusses her journey from an 'age of fear' to the 'age of pleasure,' detailing how she healed abandonment trauma from her father's addiction and prison time to create her new album, The Age of Pleasure. She emphasizes the importance of self-forgiveness, gratitude towards ex-partners for facilitating growth, and the power of community in reclaiming one's sexuality and identity as a non-binary, queer artist.

Key takeaways 5
  • Monáe reframes her new album not as a traditional record but as a 'soundtrack to a lifestyle' created in safe spaces with friends, where the validation of her peers determined which songs made the cut.
  • She connects her struggle with rejection in art directly to childhood abandonment trauma caused by her father's addiction, explaining that healing required forgiving him and realizing his absence was about his struggle, not her worth.
  • Monáe advocates for 'coming in' rather than 'coming out,' describing it as inviting others into her sacred world rather than exposing herself to the norm, which shifts the power dynamic from shame to empowerment.
  • She discusses the necessity of unlearning traditional relationship structures, citing her experience with polyamory and the need for constant communication to navigate jealousy and evolving needs.
  • Monáe highlights the importance of self-pleasure and reclaiming bodily autonomy, noting that discovering vibrators early on helped her realize she holds the power of her own orgasm independent of partners.
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  • “There is no pleasure without feeling safe. I didn't always feel safe.”
    ▶ 8:17 Monáe explains that her journey to creating 'The Age of Pleasure' required first establishing a sense of safety within herself, moving away from the constant fight against oppressive systems.
  • “Your thoughts about my art are not more powerful than my thoughts about my art.”
    ▶ 10:04 Monáe shares a mindset shift regarding rejection, emphasizing that external validation should not override internal self-worth.
  • “I thank the person who I was in a relationship with... They forced you to deal with something that you were not going to deal with.”
    Monáe describes thanking an ex-partner for ending the relationship, as it pushed her to confront her abandonment trauma in therapy.
  • “I wasn't put here to follow every rule. I was put here to help rewrite them.”
    ▶ 44:44 Monáe reflects on overcoming her conservative Baptist upbringing and societal expectations regarding sexuality and relationships.
  • “It is bringing people into our worlds. I'm letting you in on who I am versus like you guys are the norm and I'm just like, 'Hi, I'm out here.'”
    ▶ 53:50 Monáe explains her preference for the term 'coming in' over 'coming out,' framing it as an invitation to her sacred space rather than a confession.

Chapters & Sections (30)

0:03 Summer Vacations and Curating Experiences chapter 2
1:16 Spain and Jamaica Vacation Experiences
3:01 Curating Experiences and Childhood Parties
5:03 Creating Art Through Safe Spaces and Self-Healing chapter 1
7:27 Healing Rejection and Abandonment Trauma
10:10 Healing Abandonment Trauma and Forgiveness chapter 2
12:04 Forgiving Dad and Healing Abandonment Trauma
14:59 Therapy's Impact on Relationships and Advocacy
16:30 Gratitude for Exes and Personal Growth chapter 3
18:28 Cleaning Product Sponsorship and Ex Gratitude
22:27 Navigating Childhood Trauma and Therapy
23:55 Embracing Discomfort for Personal Growth
25:28 Rebuilding Relationship With Father After Prison chapter
30:57 Privacy, Social Media Pressure, and Relationships chapter 4
32:53 Social Media Pressure in Relationships
34:15 Social Media Privacy and Relationship Expectations
36:04 Reflecting on Past Relationships and Trauma
37:41 Communication, Polyamory, and Relationship Flexibility
40:07 Polyamory, Unlearning Norms, and Authentic Love chapter 1
43:37 Unlearning Conservative Norms and Rewriting Rules
45:15 Journey of Sexual Self-Acceptance and Community chapter 2
47:13 Building Community for Safe Self-Disclosure
48:44 Embracing Polyamory and Sexual Identity
50:54 Coming In vs Coming Out and Personal Power chapter 1
53:22 Reframing Coming Out as Coming In
55:37 Reclaiming Sexual Pleasure and Self-Love chapter 1
57:22 Overcoming Shame to Reclaim Sexual Autonomy
1:00:35 Age of Pleasure Tour and Album Details chapter 2
1:02:48 Favorite Song and Album Length
1:04:32 Album Features and Diaspora Influences

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