About this episodeJason Ellis and Greg Fitzsimmons discuss a wide range of topics including skateboarding safety, personal sobri…AI summary
Jason Ellis and Greg Fitzsimmons discuss a wide range of topics including skateboarding safety, personal sobriety journeys, and nostalgic memories of classic TV. The conversation highlights the importance of doing deep psychological work to break generational trauma cycles and the value of finding clarity through sobriety rather than substance use. They also share humorous anecdotes about their personal lives, pets, and observations on the Canadian music scene.
Key takeaways 5
Sobriety and therapy allow for deeper self-understanding; Ellis realized his past sexual experimentation was a coping mechanism for childhood trauma rather than genuine preference.
Breaking generational cycles of abuse and alcoholism is a significant achievement; Ellis emphasizes not passing on minimizing behaviors to his children.
The Canadian music scene is criticized for lacking musical soul compared to its comedy scene, with Neil Young and Joni Mitchell cited as exceptions.
Al-Anon provided a more profound recovery experience for Fitzsimmons than AA because it focused on the root causes (childhood trauma) rather than just white-knuckling abstinence.
Stem cell treatments in Colombia helped Fitzsimmons recover from severe knee injuries (torn PCL, MCL, meniscus) allowing him to return to skateboarding.
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“I think doing the program is like getting to the bottom of who you really are makes you a nicer person to the rest of us.”
▶ 29:41Greg Fitzsimmons explaining why he believes recovery work benefits everyone, not just the addict.
“I didn't pass this because I know that my grandparents were alcoholics everybody was and I stopped the cycle not just the drinking but also the you know um I think minimizing like uh you can minimize your child and make them feel like they're insignificant yeah and um putting yourself in a position of power where you demean them uh I didn't do that to my kids.”
▶ 30:56Jason Ellis reflecting on his pride in breaking the cycle of alcoholism and emotional abuse in his family.
“Once you uh view yourself as a non-drinker it's not a challenge every time it's presented to you you don't debate it every time.”
▶ 28:39Greg Fitzsimmons describing the mental shift required to maintain sobriety.
“Musically they suck absolute dog [ __ ] but that's like you know healthc care you know you don't have any hard times you don't have hard times you got no soul and you can't write good songs.”
▶ 22:09Jason Ellis's harsh critique of the modern Canadian music scene compared to its comedy success.
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