About this episodeThis podcast episode features a candid conversation between host Rick Glassman and guest Johnny Pepperton, cov…AI summary
This podcast episode features a candid conversation between host Rick Glassman and guest Johnny Pepperton, covering Johnny's role in Fallout, his upcoming film Mermaid, and the challenges of voice acting. The discussion delves into the nuances of improvisation in scripted roles, the impact of AI on voice acting, and personal anecdotes ranging from childhood memories to physical altercations. Key themes include the importance of projecting confidence, the subjective nature of comedic bombing, and the evolving dynamics of industry relationships.
Key takeaways 5
Improv in scripted roles: Johnny Pepperton notes that while Fallout is scripted, there is room for improvisation, particularly in voice-only scenes or when in power armor where facial expressions aren't visible, allowing for more naturalistic delivery.
AI voice spoofing concerns: The conversation highlights growing anxiety about AI technology being able to clone voices for scams, with Rick Glassman noting that Johnny's distinct voice makes him a potential target for such spoofing.
Subjective nature of 'bombing': Johnny Pepperton defines bombing not just by audience reaction but by the internal discomfort felt by the performer, suggesting that personal reaction to the lack of laughter is more impactful than the objective silence.
Projecting confidence: The hosts discuss how projecting authority and confidence (like a Broadway singer or a character in a movie) can change how people react to you, using examples from The Office and old movies.
Industry networking: Johnny Pepperton shares an anecdote about casually calling JK Simmons on air to invite him to a screening, demonstrating a low-pressure approach to maintaining industry relationships.
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“I think if I can get trapped in quantification and then it's like you know I wasn't being sincere when I asked do you think this movie would I know but sometimes I um I don't have a an also equally insincere response. So I'm just saying that. So I'm taking your But are you are you trying but it does seem like you're being sincere within not quantifying things”
▶ 59:17Johnny Pepperton explains his reluctance to analyze his career metrics or role size in Fallout, preferring to focus on the sincerity of the experience rather than quantifying success.
“Bombing is hideous. It's like that thing where you know it's kind of otherworldly. It's like a special type of bomb. a special type of feeling that's you don't know it until you experience it.”
▶ 52:06Johnny Pepperton describes the visceral, uncomfortable feeling of bombing on stage, distinguishing it from simple lack of laughter.
“Real boundaries are not joking around about somebody not touching my shoulder. Real boundaries are saying, 'Hey, I don't like being touched. Please stop.'”
▶ 1:27:38Rick Glassman critiques the tendency to turn personal boundaries into comedic bits, arguing that true boundaries require direct communication rather than humor.
“I was just like, 'Oh, I liked they they sucked because I was doing something I thought was funny and stuff like that.' You know what I mean? Yeah. But not like I didn't feel like So it's it's not the bombing that's difficult. It's the it's the reaction to it. It's the it's the trigger to it.”
▶ 43:17Johnny Pepperton elaborates on his definition of bombing, emphasizing that the difficulty lies in one's internal reaction to the failure rather than the failure itself.
“Oats have saved my life. I swear to God, oats have been Oats are a [ __] doctor. If you eat oats, you don't need to go to the doctor.”
▶ 1:15:17A humorous exaggeration by Rick Glassman regarding his reliance on oats for health, contrasting with his skepticism about car error codes.
Chapters & Sections (56)▼
0:00Interview Preparation and Comedic Routinechapter2
2:08Creative Solutions to a Lighter Barrel
3:44Upcoming Movie Release and Sponsorship Announcement
5:24The Challenges of Filming a Book Adaptationchapter1
7:25Accidental caffeine consumption and sleep deprivation
9:24Voice Spoofing and AI Technology Concernschapter2
11:22Dreams and Their Aftermath
12:33Interpreting Dreams as Flirtation or Romantic Interest
15:09The Art of Projecting Confidence and Authoritychapter2
16:45Cultural Identity and Language Patterns
18:04Parking Etiquette and Reserved Spaces
19:52Nostalgic Memories of Old Movieschapter2
21:55Relationships and Personal Connections Discussed
23:27The Fallout TV Series and Improvisation
26:49Improvisational Comedy and Spontaneous Ideaschapter3
28:25Planning a Private Screening Invitation
29:37Overcoming Social Awkwardness and Communication Barriers
31:28Exploring Meal Options and Food Preferences
33:23Promoting Meal Replacement and Fantasy Sportschapter1
35:15Importance of Therapy and Mental Health
37:35Changing Cultural Values in Modern Societychapter1
39:40Changing Teenage Priorities and Pop Culture
41:44Childhood Memories and Celebrity Encounterschapter1
44:08Etymology of Geode and Irish Language
45:59Promiscuity and Female Empowerment in Relationshipschapter5
47:45Will Smith's Stand-up Comedy Career
49:02The Art of Bombing in Comedy and Public Speaking
50:38The Psychology of Bombing in Comedy
53:26Upcoming Movie Release and Film Festival Process
55:52The Art of Writing Humorous Dialogue
56:56Exploring the Mermaid Creature in a Thriller Moviechapter2
58:31Quantification in Creative Processes
1:00:44Quantifying Emotions and Subjective Experience
1:02:08The Rise of Interactive Pet Toyschapter2
1:03:56The Importance of Fixing vs. Masking Car Issues
1:05:16Encountering Unwanted Physical Contact
1:08:08Physical altercations and fistfights in collegechapter4
1:09:33Confrontation and Fighting in a Competition
1:10:47Physical Altercation and Its Aftermath
1:11:59The Patronizing Nature of the Term 'Buddy'
1:13:44Wearing Sunglasses Indoors: Etiquette and Preferences
1:14:56Distrust in Modern Life and Societychapter3
1:16:34The Psychology of Social Interactions and Stares
1:18:02Navigating Conversational Flow and Vulnerability
1:19:21Favorite Movie Franchise and Business Inspiration
1:21:13Business and Personal Preferences in Entrepreneurshipchapter2
1:23:00Clint Eastwood's Notorious Directing Style
1:24:34The Power of Unseen Human Connections
1:26:45Setting Boundaries in Relationshipschapter1
1:29:03Dealing with Spam Calls and Telemarketing
1:30:46Balancing Seriousness and Playfulness in Interactionschapter1
1:33:04Comparing Childhood Movie Memories
1:34:52The Making of the Movie Mermaid Discussedchapter3
1:36:34The Making of an Independent Film
1:38:44Breathing Techniques for Relaxation and Focus