About this episodeDirector Drew Kirsch and NFL player Beast Mode discuss the transition from music videos to feature film direct…AI summary
Director Drew Kirsch and NFL player Beast Mode discuss the transition from music videos to feature film directing, highlighting the collaborative nature of filmmaking and the unique challenges of working with non-traditional actors. The conversation reveals specific directing techniques for athletes, such as allowing organic performance and avoiding over-direction, while emphasizing the importance of maintaining professional boundaries and crew morale on set.
Key takeaways 5
Directors should allow athletes and non-traditional actors to 'run' with their lines initially to capture organic energy, only stepping in to adjust if necessary, as over-directing can stifle their natural performance.
The director-producer dynamic involves the producer handling organizational logistics (crew hiring, schedule smoothness) to free the director to focus purely on creative storytelling and actor performance.
Maintaining cast and crew in character accents even off-set (e.g., during meals or breaks) is a critical technique for immersion, though it requires clear communication to avoid confusion.
Filmmaking is described as a constant exercise in problem-solving and pivoting, requiring the director to maintain confidence and authority regardless of daily setbacks.
Beast Mode’s success on set was attributed to his preparation (counting lines, building anticipation) and his willingness to be coached, contrasting with the stereotype that athletes are difficult to direct.
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“I didn't want to overdirect someone like him because he just brings it like it was he played it I don't have to give him performance notes right like I was just like let him run and I feel like you're going to get that same experience from other directors”
▶ 24:21Drew Kirsch explaining his strategy for directing Beast Mode, emphasizing trust in the actor's natural instincts.
“I'mma get got, but I bet I get two for the one time. I'mma get got, but I bet I get two or two. And if I get got, then you know what? I'mma get mine more than I get got though.”
▶ 0:30Beast Mode referencing his famous catchphrase, used here to humorously frame the podcast's theme of overcoming setbacks.
“Every day you get to set the man, you get to set on a film and there is 50 questions waiting for you at the front... You're constantly problem solving, pivot piv pivoting, and you've got to be you got to own that. You've got to do it with confidence, with authority”
▶ 47:53Drew Kirsch describing the relentless nature of film production and the leadership mindset required.
“I think people are going to see a lot of different things from this. The films are subjective... I don't want to fall into this like he's the dark action guy... I don't want to be pigeonholed.”
Drew Kirsch discussing his desire for career versatility and avoiding typecasting after his first feature film.
Chapters & Sections (28)▼
0:00Transitioning from Music Videos to Film Directingchapter2
2:05Film and Music Video Production Differences
3:50Working with Difficult Actors on Set
6:07The Creative Process Behind a Moviechapter1
8:33Patterns in Movie Storytelling and Character Development
10:39Evaluating Kawhi's Performance and Injury Concernschapter2
12:13Daily Fantasy Sports and Prize Picks Promotion
13:49Prospects Sports Betting App Features and Benefits
17:06Collaborative Storytelling in Film Directingchapter2
19:20Casting and Character Development Process
20:49The Art of Improvisation in Filmmaking
22:22Overcoming Fears as a Newcomer in the Industrychapter3
24:09The Art of Coaching High-Performing Athletes
26:10Actors' Immersive Method Acting Techniques
28:06The Importance of Maintaining Movie Accents on Set
29:41Directing Non-Traditional Actors in Filmchapter1
32:14Career Direction and Role Selection
34:14Career Ambitions and Future Projectschapter2
36:55Breaking into Film Directing Career
39:08Breaking Down Creative Barriers on Set
40:52Directing Actors and Creating Organic Performanceschapter1
42:47Directing and Editing in Film Production
44:31Justin Herbert's Performance and the Chargers' Struggleschapter1
45:53The Importance of a Winning Gene in Athletes
48:38Challenges of Filming Intense Fight Sceneschapter3
50:46Behind the Scenes of Film Production Process
52:40Overcoming Self-Doubt in Acting Careers
54:37Authenticity in Independent Film Productions
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