About this episodeCommon and Pete Rock discuss their collaborative album 'The Auditorium Volume One', emphasizing a return to ti…AI summary
Common and Pete Rock discuss their collaborative album 'The Auditorium Volume One', emphasizing a return to timeless, soulful boom-bap production over chasing trends. They reflect on industry integrity, sharing stories of sacrificing radio play for artistic authenticity and resolving beefs through musical battles rather than personal conflict. The conversation also covers the importance of lyrical depth, the respectful use of AI technology, and paying homage to hip-hop legends like Biggie Smalls.
Key takeaways 5
Artistic Integrity Over Commercial Pressure: Common and Pete Rock left their syndicated radio show 'The Wake Up Show' after a program director demanded they stop playing their own music (Common) and other authentic hip-hop. They chose to lose their six-figure income rather than compromise their artistic lexicon, proving that standing by one's beliefs is more valuable than short-term financial gain.
Timelessness vs. Trendiness: Pete Rock argues that good music is timeless and does not need to change to fit current trends ('young new [__]'). He and Common focused on creating music inspired by 90s legends like A Tribe Called Quest and KRS-One, aiming for a sound that resonates across generations rather than just the 'now'.
Conflict Resolution Through Art: The artists emphasize handling beefs 'on wax' (through music) rather than through violence or subliminal diss tracks that don't name names. They cite the Drake vs. Kendrick Lamar battle as a masterclass in strategic, lyrical combat that elevated the culture, comparing it to a heavyweight boxing match.
Lyrical Depth and Interpretation: Common breaks down his lyric 'Wise like the old man with food in his beard,' explaining how it references wisdom found in unexpected places (intoxicated elders) and uses double entendres like 'blues and the beers' to reference both Chicago culture and financial/material themes. This highlights the value of layered meaning in hip-hop lyrics.
AI in Music: Both artists view AI as a tool with dual potential. Pete Rock supports its use for accessibility (e.g., helping the blind) but opposes using it to clone voices without permission. Common agrees, citing the ethical issues with using deceased artists' likenesses (like the Tupac hologram) without consent.
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“I don't have no idea what it is that people put any and everything under the the banner of... I be very careful I'll be saying the art form now keep the art form oh I say the community”
▶ 0:49Common explains why he avoids the word 'culture' due to its dilution, preferring 'art form' and 'community' to describe the dedicated ecosystem of hip-hop.
“When you turn a battle record into a hit record you lost yeah you have lost... when the record it's the This Record becomes a hit record and everybody's singing it yeah that's one point”
▶ 21:53Pete Rock critiques the commercialization of battle rap, arguing that true battle tracks should remain niche anthems for hip-hop heads, not mainstream pop hits.
“I made that be in front of Biggie... he was like yo Pete I want you into little beats give me give me give me why why you do that why you be teasing people like that”
▶ 46:54Pete Rock recalls recording 'In The Flesh' from his album 'Main Ingredient' while Biggie Smalls was in the studio, highlighting Biggie's excitement and appreciation for Pete's production style.
“Wise like the old man with food in his beard... when he Cry Freedom it's jewels in his tears Blues in the beers outside interference”
▶ 38:25Common breaks down the complex imagery in his song 'Wise Up', explaining how food in a beard represents wisdom from overlooked figures, and 'blues/beers' references both Chicago culture and materialism.
“Music is music that's basically what everyone needs to understand music is music that's Pete Rock right there”
▶ 14:52Common praises Pete Rock's ability to create timeless music that doesn't need to chase trends to remain relevant.
Chapters & Sections (39)▼
0:00Discussing Art Form and Communitychapter4
0:00Discussion on Art Form vs. Culture
1:51Artistic Dedication and Innovation in Music
3:14Pete Rock's Music and Radio Show Memories
4:44Music Censorship in the Radio Industry
6:59Industry Changes and Sacrificing for Beliefschapter4
6:59Industry Changes and Sacrifices for Beliefs
9:13Celebrating Hip-Hop's 50th Anniversary with Nostalgia
10:57Artist Reflects on Collaborating with Music Hero
12:17Music Production Collaboration and Studio Setup
13:41Pete Rock Discusses Timeless Music Productionchapter3
13:41Collaboration with Influential Producers
15:29Handling Beef in the Rap Industry
17:03Rappers Discuss Past Beef and Music Creation
18:58Hip-Hop Producers and Battleschapter2
18:58Hip-Hop Battle Storytelling and Legacy
21:48Rap Battle Analysis and Critique
23:15Hip Hop and Rap Battle Discussionchapter2
23:15Hip Hop Discussion and Rap Battle Analysis
25:29Discussing Album Direction and Musical Influences
28:23Collaboration in Hip Hop Music Industrychapter4
28:23Collaboration in Hip Hop Music Industry
30:23Rapper Discusses Creativity and Inspiration
31:59Importance of Learning and Inspiration
33:10Celebrity Host Discusses Freestyling and Wine
36:07Vegan Wine and Lyrical Breakdown Discussionchapter2
36:07Vegan Product Discussion and Lyrical Analysis
37:48Reflections on Life and Personal Wisdom
40:42Discussion on Art and Materialism in Hip Hopchapter2
40:42Reflection on Art and Materialism in Hip Hop
42:08Discussion on AI in Music Creation
44:57Celebrating Biggie's Life and Music Legacychapter3
44:57Celebrating Biggie's Life and Music Legacy
48:18Celebrating Biggie's Legacy and Heavy D's Estate
49:42Pete Rock Discusses Inspiration and Family
51:04Gratitude and Appreciation for Inspirationchapter3