About this episodeStetsasonic members Bobby and Delite discuss the group's pioneering role in hip-hop history, clarifying miscon…AI summary
Stetsasonic members Bobby and Delite discuss the group's pioneering role in hip-hop history, clarifying misconceptions about their status as a 'hip-hop band' and detailing the creation of the first jazz-rap track, 'All That Jazz.' They reflect on the cultural impact of their music, the challenges with Tommy Boy Records, and the importance of maintaining artistic integrity and community awareness through their work.
Key takeaways 6
Stetsasonic was one of the first groups to be labeled a 'hip-hop band' (circa 1985), distinct from earlier acts like the Sugar Hill Gang who were session musicians paired with rappers.
The group proactively sought permission and paid for samples, such as Lonnie Liston Smith's 'Expansions,' to establish ethical standards in sampling before industry norms were set.
The distinctive drum sound on 'Ghostbusters' was achieved by recording live drums in a bathroom at Kopi Studios with the door open to capture natural reverb.
The group did not officially break up after 'Blood, Sweat and Tears' but went on hiatus because they felt Tommy Boy Records did not understand their vision for a hip-hop band.
The song 'Go West' inadvertently caused safety issues at clubs like the Latin Quarter, leading to thefts and violence, which influenced their shift toward socially conscious themes in 'Self Destruction.'
Bobby Rock played drums on Red Hot Chili Peppers' 'Higher Ground,' a fact often overlooked by listeners who assume Chad Smith performed the track.
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“You do not be a now unless you have a past. If you're going to forget your past then get rid of your language, get rid of how you walk... because all that is what makes you now.”
▶ 3:22Delite emphasizes the importance of hip-hop history and cultural roots in defining current identity.
“We were paying people... we had no problems paying people even when we did 'All That Jazz.' Lonnie gave it to us.”
▶ 11:02Bobby explains their ethical approach to sampling, contrasting it with artists who stole from older musicians without compensation.
“I didn't think so [that Tommy Boy got the vision]. I didn't see it... Had they seen the vision, I guarantee you we would be up to our 20th album by now or more.”
▶ 29:19Bobby reflects on the label's inability to support their innovative concept of a hip-hop band.
“If there is no space, you can create the space. That's how hip hop got here in the first place; we created a space where it wasn't a space.”
▶ 38:22Delite discusses the necessity for artists to innovate and create their own opportunities rather than waiting for industry validation.
“Don't call yourself an MC if you're not going to get in this playground... You can't have a real cipher unless you can go to everything the DJ drops.”
▶ 40:15Bobby and Delite stress the importance of the cipher as a test of an MC's skill and adaptability.
Chapters & Sections (29)▼
0:00Hip-Hop History and Family Legacy Discussedchapter2
0:00Hip-Hop History and Family Legacy
2:43Importance of Cultural Heritage in Hip-Hop
4:58First Time in New York Club Experiencechapter2
4:58First Time in New York City Club
7:17Discussion about Music and Relationships
9:56Sampling in Early Hip Hop Musicchapter2
9:56Sampling in Early Hip Hop Music
11:55Hip Hop Music Industry Growth and Challenges
14:20Hip Hop History and Influences Discussedchapter3
14:20Hip Hop History and Influences Discussed
16:02Growing Up in Queens and Brooklyn
17:42Discussion about Live Drums in Music Production
19:10Hip Hop Album Release and Live Performancechapter3
19:10Hip Hop Album Release and Live Performance
21:13Nightlife at Latin Quarters in New York
22:24Discussion on Music and Social Commentary
25:02Support for Dr. Shaana and School Safetychapter2
25:02Support for Dr. Shaana and her son
27:02STS Breakup and Solo Projects Discussion
29:36Hip Hop Label's Vision and Industry Challengeschapter3
29:36Hip Hop Vision and Label Challenges
31:08Industry Executives Misunderstanding Cultural Trends
32:22Overcoming Adversity in Career and Personal Life
34:57Hip-Hop Artist Discusses Inspiration and Authenticitychapter4