About this episodeFat Joe and Jadakiss discuss the success of their podcast, addressing criticism that Fat Joe talks too much by…AI summary
Fat Joe and Jadakiss discuss the success of their podcast, addressing criticism that Fat Joe talks too much by defending their positive, story-driven format as a strategic differentiator in a negative industry. They analyze various cultural topics including J. Cole's career trajectory, the importance of securing music catalogs for family protection, and the rise of Tiana Taylor, while also touching on serious issues like ICE enforcement and the dangers of AI scams.
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Fat Joe defends his podcast style by citing empirical data: they are the number one hip-hop podcast with only Shannon Sharp having more views, attributing success to a positive, story-driven format that contrasts with the typical 'dissing' culture of other shows.
Jadakiss advises artists to secure their music catalogs rather than selling them, warning that family members or trusted associates may undervalue the assets (e.g., selling a $30M catalog for $8M) if the artist is incapacitated or deceased.
Fat Joe criticizes J. Cole for not engaging in rap beefs, using the analogy of a tough guy who gets hit but doesn't fight back, arguing that in hip-hop culture, you must 'come outside' to maintain respect regardless of musical talent.
Fat Joe shares a personal lesson on handling grief and depression after losing family members, emphasizing the need to 'stay in the light' and move forward because life continues and others may exploit weakness during vulnerable periods.
The conversation highlights the growing prevalence of AI deepfake scams, citing an example where NBA player Matt Barnes was scammed out of $61,000 by an AI-generated persona, warning listeners to be skeptical of online interactions.
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“If I die, I want to feel good and say to myself, 'Yo, I know I left my family enough money.' Now, if they blow enough money, that's their problem... That's what I think is important about the catalog is because... if you pass away and your wife don't know what's going on, it's going to be somebody that you told her you trust that's going to sit down and be like, 'Yo, you know what? I could get y'all 8 million... this [__] really worth 30 million.'”
▶ 6:05Jadakiss explains his rationale for not selling his music catalog, highlighting the risk of exploitation by trusted individuals when the owner is unavailable.
“We are here to preserve the culture. We are here to give people flowers. We are here to do this positive... When you look at these podcasts, everybody's dissing your mother. You're this, this, this. They feel like that's the only way to bring the views up.”
▶ 33:14Fat Joe justifies his talkative and positive podcast style as a deliberate choice to uplift hip-hop culture rather than follow the controversial norm.
“I don't look at him [J. Cole] the same... The [__] sword is dull. I don't care what he spit... when you talking all that gangster [__] and they call you to the yard and you don't step outside. I can't look at you.”
▶ 7:28Jadakiss expresses his inability to respect J. Cole's 'gangster' persona because he avoids rap beefs, comparing it to a tough guy who gets hit but doesn't fight back.
“Life moves on. And no matter how depressed you are... you have to find a way to look towards the light... while you [__] thinking people care about somebody who died in your family, somebody's looking to take your job... life will move on.”
▶ 1:03:27Fat Joe shares advice on coping with grief, warning that staying in depression makes one vulnerable to exploitation as life and business opportunities continue around them.
Chapters & Sections (49)▼
0:00Addressing Criticism of Talking Over Guestschapter3
0:00Addressing Criticism of Talking Over Guests
1:59Music Industry Inflation and Record Sales
3:29Hip-Hop Success and Industry Criticism
4:55Importance of Securing a Music Catalogchapter2
4:55Importance of Securing a Music Catalog
8:38Fat Joe and Jadakiss Discuss Hip-Hop Beef
10:25Criticism of Knicks Players and Coacheschapter2
10:25Criticism of Knicks Player's Performance
13:17Dealing with Uncomfortable Home Temperatures
15:07Gun Laws and Military Servicechapter2
15:07Gun Laws and Military Brainwashing
17:36The Psychological Effects of War on Veterans
19:43Celebrating Tiana Taylor's Rapid Rise to Famechapter2
19:43Celebrating Tiana Taylor's Rise to Fame
22:28Addressing Conflict and Podcast Dynamics
24:07Defending Podcast Rankings and Viewership Numberschapter2
24:07Defending Podcast Viewership Numbers and Authenticity
25:57Addressing Criticism of Talking Over Guests
30:16Addressing Criticism and Show Formatchapter3
30:16Managing Guest Energy on a Talk Show
31:40Addressing Negative Trends in Podcast Culture
33:26Addressing Negative Behavior in Hip-Hop Culture
36:49Hip Hop Culture and Current Eventschapter2
36:49Hip Hop Culture and Current Events
39:04The Importance of Staying Focused on Primary Income
41:15NBA Trades and Player Evaluationschapter2
41:15NBA Trades and Player Evaluations
43:25Fetty Wap's Career and Financial Struggles
46:15The Dangers of Enabling and Being Taken Advantage Ofchapter3
46:15The Dangers of Enabling and Complacency
47:31Financial Struggles and Generosity in the Music Industry
49:13Confronting Past Betrayals in the Music Industry
51:16Business Practices in the Music Industrychapter3
51:16Business Practices in the Music Industry
52:51Publishing Rights and Royalties in Music
54:31Celebrity Awards and Industry Politics
55:48Kardashian Family and Celebrity Culture Criticismchapter1
55:48Kardashian Family and Celebrity Culture Criticism
1:00:00Risks and Consequences of AI Deep Fakeschapter4
1:00:00Risks and Consequences of AI Deep Fakes
1:02:38Coping with Trauma and Finding Inner Peace
1:04:02Coping with Grief and Mental Health
1:05:43Overcoming Depression and Coping with Loss
1:07:12US Social Unrest and Police-ICE Conflictschapter4
1:07:12Rise of National Tension and Police Violence
1:10:09ICE Agents' Aggressive Tactics and Immunity Claims
1:12:08Hip-Hop's Most Iconic Breakups and What-Ifs
1:13:28Rappers Discuss Past Collaborations and Industry Politics
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