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00:00
New York Times Intro and Music Cue
00:32
Host Introduction and Guest Arrival
01:02
CS Degree Promise vs. Reality Overview
01:32
Unemployment Statistics for CS and Engineering Majors
02:03
Comparison with Biology Graduates
02:33
Silicon Valley’s Early Tech Promises
03:04
Warnings About US Tech Education Gap
03:34
Corporate Lobbying for CS Curriculum Expansion
04:05
Code.org’s Founding and Early Video Campaign
04:36
Personal Story of Learning to Code at Age 13
05:07
Influence of Tech Billionaires on Youth
05:38
Impact of the Code.org Video on Public Perception
06:10
Launch and Reach of Hour of Code
06:40
Corporate Partnerships with Code.org for Scaling CS
07:10
Legislative Efforts to Make CS a Core Course
07:41
Teacher Training and Curriculum Development Initiatives
08:13
Assessment of the Promise’s Effectiveness for Students and Companies
08:44
Rise in Computer Science Majors
09:15
Golden Ticket Narrative and Reality Gap
09:45
Hiring Bias Toward Advanced Students
10:15
Socioeconomic Barriers in Coding Projects
11:16
Visa Policies and Foreign Labor Dynamics
11:46
AI’s Impact on Tech Employment
12:18
Automation of Software Engineering Tasks
12:49
Graduate Job Search Challenges
13:23
Shift to Non-Tech Jobs
14:54
Nathan Spencer’s Early Exposure to Computers
15:57
High School Coding Curriculum and Projects
17:00
College Transition from Math to Computer Science
17:31
Initial Career Expectations in Fall 2021
18:02
Teaching Assistant Experience and Internship Reality
18:35
Interview Process and Geographic Focus
19:05
Application Volume vs. Offer Outcomes
19:37
First Internship Offer and Ongoing Job Search
20:08
Perceived Gap Between Expectations and Reality
21:10
Supply of Programmers vs. Industry Demand
21:41
Concerns About AI Displacing Junior Developers
22:13
Future of Human Roles in AI-Driven Development
22:43
Considering Architecture as a Secondary Skill
23:13
Long-Term Career Viability and Education Reform
24:46
Adapting Curriculum to AI Tools
25:50
Historical Pattern of Tech-Driven School Reform
26:52
Tech Companies Pushing AI into Schools
27:22
Microsoft and Google AI Education Commitments
27:54
Discussion on Prioritizing Student Learning Over Corporate Interests
28:26
Federal Troop Deployment to Portland Protest Site
28:57
Governor's Opposition and Legal Rationale
29:28
ICE Arrest of De Moines Superintendent and School Board Response
30:00
Mayor Eric Adams' Campaign Withdrawal Amid Corruption Charges
30:31
Production Credits and Closing Remarks