AS MUCH SOUP AS YOU WANT Ft. Taylor Tomlinson

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About this episode Taylor Tomlinson joins Drew Barrymore to discuss her new Netflix special 'Prodigal Daughter,' detailing her ev… AI summary

Taylor Tomlinson joins Drew Barrymore to discuss her new Netflix special 'Prodigal Daughter,' detailing her evolution from religious trauma comedy to a more nuanced perspective. She shares a dramatic story of quitting a corporate standup gig after sponsors demanded she make her material 'nicer to men,' highlighting the clash between artistic integrity and brand safety. The conversation also covers the realities of book publishing cover designs, the psychological benefits of turning 30, and humorous anecdotes from red carpet interviews where she uses snacks and alcohol as leverage.

Key takeaways 4
  • Taylor Tomlinson quit a corporate standup gig after a sponsor's representative demanded she make her set 'more uplifting' and 'nicer to men,' highlighting the tension between artistic integrity and corporate control.
  • Tomlinson's new special 'Prodigal Daughter' reflects a nuanced evolution in her comedy, moving from antagonistic religious trauma jokes to a more balanced, understanding perspective developed over a decade.
  • The book publishing industry heavily prioritizes author face recognition on covers for sales, often forcing authors to compromise on design preferences (e.g., Tomlinson covering her face vs. publisher wanting full face).
  • Tomlinson avoids reading non-fiction/self-help while writing her own book to prevent her photographic memory from unconsciously imprinting external ideas, opting instead for fiction like 'The Acatar' series.
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  • “"They want me to go up there and open the room in prayer. Can I open this up in prayer? Do you guys? Which would be easier than doing 20 minutes of standup."”
    ▶ 36:49 Tomlinson mocking the corporate demand for her standup set to be 'uplifting' and less antagonistic towards men.
  • “"I'm in my 30s. Yes. I'll be in my 30s at that point. Or I'm like or like I'm like I can't eat that. It's too late. I'm in my 30s."”
    ▶ 11:06 Explaining how turning 30 provides her with a convenient excuse for adult behaviors and limitations.
  • “"I have photographic memory... I stopped reading any sort of feminist theory, any sort of like self-help, empowerment, anything like that. I stopped reading all of it as I was writing because I didn't want anything to like imprint in my brain and then I write it and then I'm like, I came up with that, of course."”
    Describing her strategy to avoid accidental plagiarism while writing her book due to her memory.
  • “"If you just had the time, I could be Taylor Tomlinson... If you had 16 years, you could be Taylor spare. That's literally what I'm saying. Well, and it's also like you could have all the time. That doesn't mean you can do it."”
    Addressing the misconception that anyone can do standup just because they have time, emphasizing the skill required.

Chapters & Sections (59)

0:00 Book Cover Design and Matching Tattoos chapter 3
1:46 Book Cover Design and Airport Success
3:24 Family Matching Tattoos and Dad's Regret
5:53 Tattoo Paralysis and Matching Vibes
7:45 Tattoo Pain and Aging in Your 30s chapter 4
9:19 Perceptions of Youth and Aging Rapidly
10:31 Turning 30 and Age Excuses
11:44 Aging Perception and 2016 Photo Trend
14:10 Nostalgia for 2016 Fashion Trends
15:22 Navigating Fashion Choices and Online Speculation chapter 3
16:52 Online Speculation on Fashion and Makeup
18:56 Managing Public Reaction Photos
20:22 Hair Transformation and Disney Nostalgia
23:43 Religious Trauma and Dating Evolution chapter 1
25:17 Processing Religious Trauma and Dating
28:11 Standup Comedy Process and Brand Deal Conflict chapter 3
30:26 Standup Brand Deal Conflict
32:32 Corporate Gig Branding and Crowd Work
34:51 Comedy Show Notes and Gender Bias
36:35 Comedian Quits After Men Demand Softer Set chapter 5
37:51 Comedian Quits Over Censorship Demands
40:41 Critique of Terrible Netflix Special
41:47 Production Quality in Podcasts and Standup
43:09 Podcasting Advice and Interview Skills
44:42 Charlie XCX Wedding Press Anecdote
46:12 Writing Process and Book Cover Decisions chapter 2
48:12 Photographic Memory and Writing Originality
49:42 Reading Fiction and Cover Coverage
52:26 Book Cover Design and Author Photo Cringe chapter 3
53:59 Author Photo Pose Struggles
55:22 Writing Young Adult Fiction and Processing Trauma
57:32 Balancing Truth and Privacy in Memoirs
58:48 Discussing Favorite Fiction Books and Authors chapter 2
1:00:24 Bookstore Hunt and VE Schwab Titles
1:01:32 Lesbian Vampire Fiction and Book Series Critique
1:02:39 Audio Porn and Fiction Tropes chapter 1
1:03:59 Audio Porn and Fifty Shades Critique
1:06:33 Romantasy Age Tropes and Nostalgic TV Shows chapter 2
1:08:02 Romance Tropes and Bridgerton Discussion
1:09:13 Nostalgic TV Shows High School Musical Glee Vampire Diaries
1:11:12 TV Show Plot Holes and Glee Nostalgia chapter 2
1:13:59 Heated Rivalry and Glee Nostalgia
1:15:53 Darren Criss Appeal and Glee Character Dynamics
1:17:51 Glee Mashups and Standup Origins chapter 1
1:19:52 Sibling Feedback on Appearance
1:22:35 Red Carpet Snacks and Comedy Firing chapter 2
1:24:01 Red Carpet Snacks and K-Pop Encounters
1:26:02 Red Carpet Snacks and Church Firing
1:27:51 Church Comedy Career and Political Pivot Jokes chapter
1:31:47 Comedy, Offense, and Media Literacy Crisis chapter 2
1:35:02 Literal Interpretation of Comedy Jokes
1:36:45 Navigating Celebrity Press Constraints
1:38:01 Comedians' Unfazed Attitude Toward Fame chapter 1
1:40:55 Questlove's Game Night Scrabble Incident
1:42:24 Big Head Insecurities and Childhood Restrictions chapter 1
1:45:39 Childhood TV Restrictions and Early Jobs
1:46:51 Nostalgia for Sue Plantation Buffet chapter 2
1:49:43 Sue Plantation Menu and Dining Experience
1:52:00 Community validation and mall selfie challenge

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