Adam Ray on Norm Macdonald, Funny Movies & 2 Girls 1 Cup

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About this episode Adam Corolla and Adam Ray discuss the disparity in critical reception between comedy and drama films, the vira… AI summary

Adam Corolla and Adam Ray discuss the disparity in critical reception between comedy and drama films, the viral history of the 'Two Girls One Cup' shock video, and the enduring legacy of comedian Norm Macdonald. They also share personal anecdotes about parenting, strip club culture, and the importance of studying comedic predecessors.

Key takeaways 5
  • Comedy films are systematically undervalued by critics compared to dramas; for example, 'Anchorman' has a 66% Rotten Tomatoes score while the drama 'Moonlight' has 98%, despite comedy requiring significant skill.
  • The 'Two Girls One Cup' video became a cultural phenomenon partly due to its innocuous title which masked its content, leading to widespread shock value upon viewing.
  • Norm Macdonald's comedic legacy is preserved through short clips and memes, whereas contemporaries like Gilbert Gottfried fade from public memory because they lack this specific format of digital preservation.
  • Young comedians must actively study the work of legendary comedians (like Richard Pryor or Eddie Murphy) rather than relying on modern social media clips, as access to full historical context is now at their fingertips.
  • Strip club bathroom attendants serve a dual purpose: providing amenities (mints, cologne) and acting as a deterrent to public masturbation, with the attendant's presence alone preventing most attempts.
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  • “I'll bet you could find a kind of middle-of-the-road movie... I'll guarantee a movie like Moonlight is in the high 90s... But I don't see here's the way I would look at it... You want to do a comedy? I'd go, 'No, no. I'm going to do one about a black guy who is being reunited with his dad. His dad had a brain injury.' ... You try to do a comedy. No. They'll punish you. 66%. That's blasphemy.”
    ▶ 4:12 Adam Corolla explains why he would choose to make a serious drama over a comedy if he had to achieve a high Rotten Tomatoes score, highlighting the unfair critical bias against comedy.
  • “We take your favorite comedies of all time and give them mediocre to low scores on Rotten Tomatoes. So what is it? Do we really appreciate the gift of comedy... or do we not give a [__] and never nominate for Academy Award?”
    ▶ 6:49 Corolla questions the industry's stated appreciation for comedy versus its actual award behavior and critical scoring.
  • “Norm was a very funny dude... but I have sat in the room with Norm... my walk away my takeaway would be like he's a funny dude. He's not like... destroying. No, it was like if you'd listened to me and him for an hour, you'd go, 'Maybe Corolla was 10% funnier or something like that.'”
    ▶ 28:43 Adam Ray describes his personal experience with Norm Macdonald, noting that while Macdonald was funny in short bursts, he wasn't necessarily the funniest person in the room during long conversations.
  • “Mike Tyson famously studied old fighters... Willie Pep was a lightweight... Tyson was a heavyweight... but he wanted to learn from his technique... Willie Pep may have been dead by the time Tyson turned professional, but he wanted to watch black and white footage of a lightweight guy who was dead doing his thing in the ring that so that maybe he could pick up a couple of pointers.”
    ▶ 37:47 Corolla uses Mike Tyson's study of Willie Pep as an analogy for why modern comedians should study the techniques of past legends, regardless of era or weight class.
  • “When I was a carpenter... there is no book. There is no class. There is no training... It's all one big tip. Lots of weird tips... If you listen to all the tips, in about five or seven years, you'll be a pretty [__] solid carpenter.”
    ▶ 42:48 Corolla explains his learning philosophy derived from his time as a carpenter: absorbing small tips from experienced workers rather than relying on formal education.

Chapters & Sections (46)

0:00 Comedy vs Drama Critical Reception chapter 4
2:22 Comedy, Sports, and Movie Innovation
3:32 Movie Critics vs Audience and SNL Performances
5:02 Comedy Appreciation vs Critical Scoring
7:57 Jim Carrey Movie Awards and Two Girls One Cup
10:52 Two Girls One Cup Shock Video Discussion chapter 1
13:18 Two Girls One Cup Shock Video Analysis
15:28 Creating Viral Kermit Reaction Video chapter 3
16:53 Analysis of 2 Girls 1 Cup Video
18:30 Viral YouTube Kermit Parody Video Story
19:56 Motivations Behind 2 Girls 1 Cup Video
22:39 Parenting Advice and Two Girls One Cup chapter 2
24:14 Audience Reaction to 2 Girls 1 Cup
26:07 Comedy Critique and Two Girls One Cup
27:38 Norm Macdonald's Legacy and Comedic Immortality chapter 2
29:59 Comedy Nostalgia and Fat Jokes
31:22 Norm Macdonald Legacy and Comedian Recognition
33:30 Comedy Legacy and Required Study chapter 2
35:52 Required Comedy Viewing for Beginners
37:35 Impact of Instant Access on Comedic Study
39:29 Respecting Craft and Learning from Predecessors chapter 1
41:32 Learning from predecessors and carpentry tips
44:15 Learning from criticism and strip club etiquette chapter 2
46:57 Social Etiquette and Tipping Norms
48:39 Strip Club Bathroom Attendant Experience
50:14 Strip Club Bathroom Attendant Dynamics chapter 1
52:12 Strip Club Bathroom Attendant Role
54:38 Preventing Masturbation With Awkward Music chapter 2
56:23 Music to Interrupt Sexual Acts
57:55 Strip Club Culture and First Time Experiences
1:02:17 Russ Meyer Films and Strip Club Job Story chapter 1
1:03:49 Applying for Janitor Job at Strip Club
1:07:27 Adam Ray Show Promo, Sheath Ads, News Parody chapter 1
1:11:00 Greek Mythology and The Odyssey
1:12:55 Critique of Hollywood Diversity Casting and Media Narratives chapter 1
1:14:42 Hollywood Casting Politics and Gender Discourse
1:18:09 Political Cowardice and Transgender Identity Shifts chapter
1:22:47 Hypocrisy on Sexual Misconduct and Abortion chapter 1
1:24:40 Hypocrisy on Sexual Misconduct and Abortion
1:27:52 Abortion Debate and Legal Receipts chapter 1
1:29:32 Courtroom Story: Drunk Driver and Receipts
1:32:05 Legal System Rigged, Addict Behavior, Building Collapse chapter 2
1:34:50 Drunk Driving, Robot Cars, and NYC Building Collapse
1:36:35 42nd Street Building Collapse and Structural Issues
1:38:36 Manhattan Building Collapse Engineering Analysis chapter 1
1:41:01 Building Collapse Prevention and Structural Shoring

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