Claressa Shields Talks Being The GWOAT, Remy Ma, Laila Ali, & Relationship with Papoose

Justin Laboy
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About this episode Claressa Shields discusses her journey from a challenging upbringing in Flint, Michigan, to becoming a four-ti… AI summary

Claressa Shields discusses her journey from a challenging upbringing in Flint, Michigan, to becoming a four-time undisputed world champion, highlighting how boxing helped her overcome childhood bullying and a speech impediment. She details her recent $8 million contract, her relationship with rapper Papoose, and her advocacy for establishing clear financial blueprints and pay scales for female boxers to ensure equitable compensation.

Key takeaways 5
  • Overcoming Adversity: Shields overcame a severe stutter and childhood bullying by channeling her anger into boxing, which provided her with a voice and self-defense capabilities starting at age 11.
  • Financial Advocacy: She argues for a standardized 'blueprint' or 'escalator' system in women's boxing that defines pay based on experience and achievements (e.g., Olympic history, world titles), contrasting this with the lack of structure she faced early in her career.
  • Brand Building: Shields emphasizes that female athletes need training in storytelling and brand building to maximize their earning potential, noting that she negotiated an $8 million deal by leveraging her status as a top-tier brand.
  • Relationship Dynamics: Her relationship with Papoose is built on mutual respect and privacy; they maintain separate residences but share a deep partnership where they support each other's careers, with Shields noting she pays her own bills but expects a provider dynamic when they eventually cohabitate.
  • Mental Resilience: Shields refuses to show weakness or admit to injuries (like a torn labrum) during fights, believing that displaying strength is crucial for maintaining respect and commanding higher purses.
Notable quotes 5 AI-generated: wording and quote attribution may be wrong. Use the play link to verify.
  • “I think the appropriate time is when you're done, you know, when you're retired... you have to let the world know, hey, I was great when I did it, but right now it's her time.”
    ▶ 40:39 Shields explains why she believes Leila Ali should stop trying to fight her and instead pass the torch to the next generation of fighters like Caroline Dubois.
  • “I would like to see it be like a real blueprint on what women should get paid... if you have amateur history or Olympic history, you should come out amateurs making this much... instead of just turning pro and then having to figure it all out on your own.”
    ▶ 01:17:45 Shields outlines her vision for structural change in women's boxing to ensure fair compensation based on merit and experience.
  • “I got 100K for any girl that can whoop my ass. She can come out to my gym. I have a 100K right there. She with me, I'll give her 100K. Now, she lose, she can get the [__] on.”
    ▶ 01:13:07 Shields confidently asserts her physical dominance and skill level, dismissing claims that an average person could beat her.
  • “I'm not the chick you want to [__] with... 99% of the stuff that these haters say on social media, my right hand to God, they will not ever say that to me to my face.”
    ▶ 01:11:41 Shields addresses online haters and critics, emphasizing that her physical presence and reputation deter real-world confrontation.
  • “I think we can go half. I think we can if he... he may pay the pay all the bills for two, three years and then I have to pick it back. However you want to put it... people have to know that in relationships like you do what works.”
    ▶ 01:27:12 Shields discusses her pragmatic approach to finances in her relationship with Papoose, balancing traditional provider roles with her own financial independence.

Chapters & Sections (179)

00:00 Growing Up in Detroit and Its Culture chapter 3
00:00 Boxing Career and Accolades of a Champion
00:30 Celebrity Personalities and Public Perception
01:16 Growing Up in a City with High Respect
01:49 Comparing Detroit and Flint Communities chapter 3
01:49 Support from Home City and Region
02:17 Growing Up in Flint and Boxing Culture
02:41 Analyzing Boxing Fights and Upsets
03:20 Overcoming Adversity in a Tough Environment chapter 2
03:20 Analyzing Anthony Joshua's Upset Boxing Victory
03:57 Growing Up in a Tough Environment
04:41 Growing Up in a Supportive Community chapter 2
04:41 Growing Up in a Supportive Community
05:34 Growing Up in Flint, Michigan's Challenges
06:04 Overcoming Childhood Bullying and Low Self-Confidence chapter 2
06:04 Overcoming Childhood Speech Impediment and Building Confidence
06:44 Overcoming Childhood Bullying Through Boxing
07:47 Overcoming Childhood Trauma through Boxing chapter 4
07:47 Channeling Anger and Trauma through Boxing
08:34 Importance of Mental Health Awareness
08:58 Childhood Motivation to Pursue Boxing Career
09:33 Early Exposure to Boxing and Street Fights
10:04 Overcoming Parental Objections to Pursuing Boxing chapter 2
10:04 Overcoming Parental Objections to Pursuing Boxing
10:38 Overcoming Obstacles to Pursue Boxing Career
11:30 Importance of Fatherly Love and Support chapter 2
11:30 Importance of Having a Father Figure in Life
12:48 Overcoming Childhood Trauma and Trust Issues
13:21 Childhood Trauma and Resilience chapter 3
13:21 Childhood Trauma and Resilience
13:43 Childhood Trauma and Its Lasting Impact
14:15 Inspiration to Start Rapping and MMA Career
14:43 Finding Creative Expression Through Music and Writing chapter 3
14:43 Overcoming Self-Doubt and Lack of Motivation
15:06 Finding Creative Outlets for Stress Relief
15:43 Creative Process and Collaboration in Music
16:13 Collaboration in Music Production and Songwriting chapter 3
16:13 Effective Rap Delivery and Cadence Techniques
16:38 Collaboration in Songwriting and Studio Sessions
17:31 Effective Communication in Relationships
17:51 Papoose's Rap Skills and Music Career chapter
19:48 Female Rappers Collaborations and Beef Squashing chapter 2
19:48 Female Artists Collaborating and Squashing Beef
20:27 Collaboration with Female Rappers in Music Industry
21:05 Relationship Expectations and Communication in Partnerships chapter 2
21:05 Relationship Expectations and Communication in Partnerships
21:42 Celebrity Music Influences and Favorite Artists
22:16 Balancing Sex Appeal in a Male-Dominated Sport chapter 3
22:16 Balancing Sex Appeal in Male-Dominated Sports
22:56 Adapting to Professional Boxing Expectations
23:38 Evolution of Personal Style and Image
24:06 Balancing Beauty and Professional Image chapter 3
24:06 Balancing Beauty and Athleticism in Public Life
24:40 Confidence and Self-Esteem in the Face of Criticism
25:10 Building a Brand in Women's Boxing
26:19 Negotiations and Business Dealings in Boxing chapter
27:50 Boxing Career and Financial Expectations chapter 3
27:50 Promoting Boxing Events and Personal Brand
28:10 Early Career Struggles in Professional Boxing
28:48 Boxing Career Achievements and Promotional Status
29:26 Dealing with Haters and Public Perception chapter
30:34 Claressa Shields' 2018 Fight with Hannah Gabriels chapter
32:14 Rematch Controversy and Past Fights chapter 3
32:14 Rematch and Past Boxing Controversies Discussed
32:46 Postponed Fight and Replacement Controversy
33:29 Defending Past Actions and Criticizing Opponents
34:00 Comparing Boxing Records and Achievements chapter 2
34:00 Comparing Boxing Careers and Achievements
34:50 Defining Greatness in Boxing and Sports
35:28 Overcoming Injuries and Defending Against Criticism chapter 3
35:28 Overcoming Injuries in High-Pressure Sports Situations
36:14 Comparison of Boxing Careers and Ages
36:42 Debunking Rumors and Setting the Record Straight
37:13 Defamation and Reputation in Women's Boxing chapter 2
37:13 Defamation and Reputation in Women's Sports
37:50 Responding to Negative Public Perception
38:31 Addressing Racial Stereotypes and Personal Attacks chapter
40:08 Passing the Torch to the Next Generation chapter 4
40:08 Passing the Torch to the Next Generation
40:42 Passing the Torch to Future Generations
41:08 Emerging Female Boxing Talent in the UK
41:36 Passing the Torch to Future Generations
42:24 Challenges of Dating as a Professional Athlete chapter 5
42:24 Challenges of Dating as a Professional Athlete
43:10 Dating Preferences and Relationship Experiences
43:45 Importance of Support in Personal Relationships
44:15 Managing Stress and Emotional Outbursts
44:46 Relationship Dynamics and Conflict Resolution
45:24 Relationship Dynamics and Conflict Resolution chapter 2
45:24 Relationship Dynamics and Conflict Resolution
46:10 Relationship Dynamics and Conflict Resolution
46:42 Relationship Dynamics and Communication in Partnerships chapter 3
46:42 Papoose's Boxing Skills and Physical Abilities
47:32 Relationship Dynamics and Soulmates
48:01 Criticism of Superficial Conversations
48:23 First Meeting with Papoose and Early Relationship chapter 3
48:23 Objectification and Expectations in Relationships
48:49 Meeting Papoose at a Boxing Event
49:34 Post-Fight Media Obligations and Fan Interactions
50:15 Initial Online Interaction and Relationship Development chapter 2
50:15 Relationship Development and Celebrity Interactions
50:56 Reconciliation and Reconnection Efforts
51:54 Initial Online Interaction and Courtship chapter 2
51:54 Building a Relationship Through Text Messaging
52:22 Early Relationship Dynamics and Communication
53:03 Claressa Shields' Relationship with Papoose chapter 3
53:03 Early Influences on Music Taste
53:30 Artist's Music and Relationship Development
54:15 First Date Nerves and Relationship Development
54:56 Significance of Gold in Relationships chapter
55:51 Getting Partner's Name Tattooed: Emotional Considerations chapter 2
55:51 When to Get Partner's Name Tattooed
56:44 Relationship Communication and Trust Issues
57:17 Navigating Celebrity Relationships and Public Perception chapter 4
57:17 Sharing a Tattoo as a Romantic Gesture
57:44 Navigating Fame in a High-Profile Relationship
58:08 Dealing with Relationship Intrusion and Criticism
58:24 Relationship Expectations and Perception of Men
58:54 Choosing to Date Privately and Avoiding Public Relationships chapter
01:00:13 Maintaining Privacy in High-Profile Relationships chapter 3
01:00:13 Celebrity Relationships and Public Disclosure
01:00:34 Maintaining Private Life in Public Eye
01:00:51 Importance of Honesty and Authenticity in Relationships
01:01:16 Dealing with Online Harassment and Trolls chapter
01:02:36 Social Media Lawsuits and Online Harassment chapter 2
01:02:36 Abuse of Hidden Recording Devices
01:03:07 Celebrity Feuds and Lawsuits in the Public Eye
01:03:48 Celebrity Spending Habits and Philanthropy chapter
01:05:04 Confidence in Financial Success and Boxing Career chapter 2
01:05:04 Faith and Success in Career Pursuits
01:05:33 Boxing Career and Financial Priorities
01:06:22 Motivation and Legacy in Professional Boxing chapter 2
01:06:22 Boxing Motivations: Money vs. Legacy
01:07:02 The Art of In-Ring Trash Talk and Competition
01:07:38 Upcoming Boxing Match Analysis and Predictions chapter 2
01:07:38 Upcoming Boxing Match Analysis and Predictions
01:08:18 Celebrity Boxing Matches and Draw Controversies
01:08:51 Comparing Boxing Skills and Dominance chapter 2
01:08:51 Comparing Boxing Skills and Fighters
01:09:34 Perceptions of Being the Greatest of All Time
01:10:21 Perceptions of Being the Greatest in Boxing chapter 2
01:10:21 Perceptions of Being the Greatest Female Boxer
01:10:44 Confidence and Motivation as a World Champion
01:11:41 Confidence and Perception of Physical Ability chapter 3
01:11:41 Perceptions of Threats and Confrontational Behavior
01:12:02 Dealing with Haters and Online Criticism
01:12:25 Perception of Being Disrespected and Physical Confrontation
01:13:07 Confidence in Boxing Skills and Physical Abilities chapter
01:14:30 Comparing Boxing Skills and Physical Abilities chapter 3
01:14:30 Comparing Boxing Skills and Physicality
01:15:08 Boxing Skills and Physical Strength Comparison
01:15:36 Street Fighting vs. Controlled Boxing Environment
01:16:02 Competitive Sparring and Boxing Strategies chapter 2
01:16:02 Experiences in Mixed Martial Arts Competition
01:16:27 Competitive Sparring and Respect for Opponents
01:17:23 Advocating for Female Boxers' Fair Pay and Support chapter 3
01:17:23 Advocating for Gender Equality in Women's Boxing
01:18:18 Early Career Challenges in Women's Boxing
01:18:44 Navigating the Boxing Business as a Female Fighter
01:19:06 Fair Pay for Female Boxers and Athletes chapter
01:20:47 Navigating Femininity and Personal Boundaries chapter 3
01:20:47 Challenges of Being a Tomboy in Society
01:21:40 Experiences with Toxic Relationships and Boundaries
01:22:06 Defining Disrespectful Behavior in Relationships
01:22:36 Infidelity and Relationship Expectations in Modern Relationships chapter 2
01:22:36 Infidelity and Relationship Trust Issues
01:23:22 The Nature of Infidelity in Relationships
01:24:02 Relationship Dynamics and Cheating in Partnerships chapter
01:25:18 Financial Expectations in Relationships chapter 3
01:25:18 Financial Expectations in Relationships
01:25:55 Relationship Expectations and Financial Independence
01:26:31 Financial Responsibilities in Relationships
01:27:14 Relationship Expectations and Financial Responsibilities chapter 2
01:27:14 Financial Expectations in Relationships
01:27:42 Traditional Roles in Relationships and Marriage
01:28:28 Balancing Relationship Responsibilities and Expectations chapter 3
01:28:28 Balancing Relationships and Personal Responsibilities
01:29:14 Balancing Relationships and Career Responsibilities
01:29:42 Financial Responsibilities in Relationships

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