Ella Mai on Being a Mom & Lover Girl

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About this episode Ella Mai discusses her evolution from a South London upbringing to becoming a Grammy-winning R&B artist, highl… AI summary

Ella Mai discusses her evolution from a South London upbringing to becoming a Grammy-winning R&B artist, highlighting the profound impact of motherhood on her perspective and creative process. She emphasizes the importance of authenticity, maintaining a strong support system, and prioritizing quality over quantity in her music career, while also debunking common astrological stereotypes associated with her Scorpio identity.

Key takeaways 6
  • Motherhood fundamentally shifted Ella Mai's patience and priorities, removing the time for unnecessary drama and forcing her to focus on what truly matters.
  • Ella Mai's songwriting journey began in school where she realized she could turn personal life experiences into songs, moving away from the idea that songwriting required being a 'crazy poet.'
  • Her collaboration with producer DJ Mustard is built on mutual respect and creative freedom; he gives her control, allowing her to work with other producers, which helped build her confidence and unique sound.
  • Ella Mai intentionally takes long breaks between albums (approx. 4 years) to live life and gather authentic experiences, preferring quality over the oversaturation common in the industry.
  • She challenges the stereotype that Scorpios are purely jealous, reframing it as being 'territorial' and 'cool, calm, and collected,' while noting that Cancer rising adds emotional depth.
  • The album 'Do You Still Love Me?' was recorded during pregnancy/postpartum with a focus on fun and vulnerability, resulting in a more personal project without features to keep the narrative intimate.
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  • “Always show up as yourself. As cliche as it is, no one fills a space the way you do. We are all built different for a reason.”
    ▶ 4:46 Ella Mai shares her personal mantra, explaining that clichés exist because they are true, and emphasizes individuality in an industry often focused on trends.
  • “I feel like when women hit their 30s, it's just like there's just a different vibe. There's a different energy that is like hard to explain, but anybody any woman that's over 30 knows exactly what I'm talking about.”
    ▶ 5:47 Reflecting on her current era of life, Ella Mai describes the shift in mindset and energy that comes with age and motherhood.
  • “I don't want to perform love for you... I think it's important to keep some stuff to yourself. I think that's very that's an important balance.”
    ▶ 49:12 Ella Mai explains her decision to be vulnerable in her music while keeping her private life protected, rejecting the pressure to publicly prove her relationships.
  • “I think we are more so territorial than jealous. And those there's a thin line, but I do think those are two different things. I think it gets misconstrued for jealousy.”
    ▶ 11:03 Debunking Scorpio stereotypes, Ella Mai clarifies that her sign's intensity is about protecting what is hers rather than irrational jealousy.

Chapters & Sections (32)

0:00 Growing Up in South London chapter 2
1:46 The Importance of Good Communication in Relationships
3:18 Celebrity Encounters and Inspirational Life Mantras
5:16 Embracing Motherhood and a New Era of Life chapter 1
7:06 Parenting a Newborn and Toddler
9:56 Debunking Scorpio Stereotypes and Misconceptions chapter 1
12:12 Growing Up in a Musical Family
14:16 The Importance of Family Time and Shared Experiences chapter 1
17:26 Early Music Career and Girl Group Experience
20:07 Early Days of Music Career and Virality chapter 1
21:37 Breaking into the Music Industry as an Independent Artist
24:30 Maintaining Creative Independence in Relationships chapter 1
27:29 Finding Your Unique Identity Online
29:08 Dealing with Pressure and One Hit Wonder Stigma chapter 1
31:12 Navigating Success and Creative Pressure
34:09 Importance of Support Systems in Success chapter 2
35:55 Revisiting Intimate Performance Roots
38:36 The Importance of Quality Over Quantity in Music
40:19 Creating a Cohesive Album Experience chapter 4
42:53 Vulnerability in Creative Expression
44:16 Opening Up About Personal Life and Relationships
46:12 Embracing Spontaneity and Vulnerability in Relationships
48:01 Importance of Maintaining Personal Boundaries
49:42 The Significance of Love Songs in Modern Music chapter 2
51:28 Navigating Motherhood and Self-Discovery
52:59 Motherhood and Parenting Challenges
55:02 The Challenges of Breastfeeding and Body Recovery chapter 1
57:02 Challenges of Postpartum Fitness and Routine
59:36 Astrology and Personality Traits chapter 3
1:01:31 Astrology Signs and Their Traits Discussed
1:03:13 Reading Room Dynamics and Zodiac Traits
1:04:31 Astrology and Personality Traits in the Apocalypse

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