Attraction Rather Than Promotion, Lara Beitz | EP 132 | The Jason Ellis Show

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About this episode Laura Bates discusses her journey from severe alcohol addiction to sobriety, highlighting how self-medication … AI summary

Laura Bates discusses her journey from severe alcohol addiction to sobriety, highlighting how self-medication was used to numb internal self-criticism. She details the specific pressures and rapid progression of her comedy career at The Comedy Store, revealing that adopting a profane, unfiltered persona was key to her success. The conversation also covers the hostile environment female comedians face, including on-stage harassment, and her current approach to writing material and managing relationships.

Key takeaways 6
  • Addiction as Self-Medication: Bates reveals she drank heavily to numb the negative self-talk she experienced daily, noting that sobriety now requires active positive self-talk rather than avoidance.
  • Career Acceleration via Persona Shift: Bates initially bombed trying to be 'clean' and 'intelligent' but succeeded after switching to a profane, aggressive voice, specifically citing a joke about 'balls looking like chicken nuggets' as the turning point for getting passed into development at The Comedy Store.
  • The 'Seven Auditions' Pressure: She auditioned for the booker at The Comedy Store seven times before being accepted, running out of good material and having to write new jokes weekly under intense pressure.
  • Hostility in Comedy Venues: Bates shares disturbing experiences of on-stage groping and threats of being roofied, noting that male audience members often failed to intervene due to a misconception that they shouldn't 'insult' women by implying they can't handle themselves.
  • Sleep Deprivation Impact: While sleep tracking (Aura Ring) is popular, Bates notes that low REM sleep doesn't always correlate directly with performance failure, though it does cause a noticeable lag in crowd work reaction times.
  • Dating Comedians Risks: Bates advises against dating comedians due to the risk of being the subject of jokes, sharing an anecdote where her boyfriend was offended by a joke about him proposing with swans.
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  • “I feel like I started busting your balls out of the gate there's a lot to choose from... I think I say way worse stuff to myself or I have done I still do than you can.”
    ▶ 10:14 Bates explains her tendency for self-deprecation and how she uses comedy to process internal criticism.
  • “I started putting on that stupid voice that I can't shake and saying really profane things and that was when I got passed.”
    ▶ 32:35 Bates identifies the specific shift in comedic style that led to her professional breakthrough at The Comedy Store.
  • “Men hate it they're afraid I'm going to talk about them on stage... men don't like a woman who's like dominant.”
    ▶ 17:21 Bates discusses the challenges female comedians face in dating and social interactions due to their professional persona.
  • “I didn't mean for instance that there actually had to be peacocks walking around if he was going to propose to me like that was a joke... he got pissed I was like there need to be like swans that was a joke.”
    ▶ 19:42 An example of the disconnect between comedic exaggeration and a partner's literal interpretation, leading to relationship tension.
  • “I will go through it again you know yeah because you love your craft yeah yeah and I but I mean ultimately like I didn't die it doesn't matter like I didn't I didn't like it but I don't feel like there was too much like I'm okay I don't know is that bad to say that there wasn't too much lasting damage.”
    ▶ 56:59 Bates reflects on surviving severe harassment and assault in the comedy scene, emphasizing resilience and love for her career.

Chapters & Sections (50)

0:00 Uncomfortable Interview with a Disturbing Guest chapter 3
0:00 Interview with a Guest on a TV Show
2:22 Inappropriate Discussion of Genitalia and Sex
4:15 Cultural Sensitivity in Comedy
5:36 Wisconsin Drinking Culture and Sobriety chapter 3
5:36 Wisconsin Drinking Culture and Sobriety
7:19 Comedian Discusses Late Nights and Comedy Career
8:51 Comedian's Career Boost from Joe Rogan Mention
11:05 Overcoming Self-Doubt and Addiction chapter 2
11:05 Overcoming Self-Doubt and Addiction through Positive Thinking
13:01 Breakdancing Memories and Social Media Impact
15:24 Rejection and Self-Discovery as a Female Comedian chapter 3
15:24 Rejection and Dating Preferences Discussed
17:09 Challenges of Being a Female Stand-up Comedian
18:26 Ex-Boyfriend's Reaction to Jokes About Him
20:21 Self-Doubt and Comedy Writing Process chapter 2
20:21 Self-doubt and risk in relationships
22:26 Personal Growth and Relationship Reflection
26:09 Celebrity Relationships and STD Testing chapter 2
26:09 Celebrity Relationships and STD Testing
28:55 Appreciation for Comedic Skill Development
31:15 Comedian's Journey to Success at The Comedy Store chapter 3
31:15 Comedian Discusses Paying Dues in Comedy
32:35 Overcoming Stage Fright and Finding Success
34:13 Overcoming Performance Pressure and Self Doubt
36:34 Liquid Death Water Ad and Product Promotion chapter 1
36:34 Liquid Death Water Ad and Product Promotion
41:08 Managing Fatigue for Successful Comedy Performances chapter 3
41:08 Fatigue Affects Comedian's Performance
42:57 Hyperbaric Chamber for Better Sleep
44:08 Helmet for Sleep or Energy Boost
45:38 Overcoming Stage Fright and Panic Attacks chapter 2
45:38 Overcoming Stage Fright and Medical Issues
47:21 Oxygen Mask Use During Medical Event
50:35 Overcoming Fainting Spells and Past Trauma chapter 3
50:35 Overcoming Fainting Spells and Past Trauma
53:07 Woman Recalls Past Harassment Experiences
54:34 Discussing Roofie Threats in Public
56:01 Overcoming Harassment in the Comedy Industry chapter 2
56:01 Overcoming Hostile Comedy Scene Experiences
57:46 Improvement in Women's Treatment and Personal Experiences
1:00:36 Taser Use and Personal Safety Discussion chapter 3
1:00:36 Taser Use and Personal Safety Discussion
1:03:14 PCP and Methamphetamine Discussion
1:04:30 Comedian Discusses Social Media and Performance
1:05:49 Comedian Discusses Social Media and Mushrooms chapter 4
1:05:49 Comedian Discusses Social Media and Mushrooms
1:08:30 Childhood Rebellion and Escapades
1:09:43 Childhood Pranks and Near-Death Experiences
1:10:59 Nostalgic Memories of Train Tracks and Porn Magazines

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