About this episodeDan and Ellis discuss the challenges of YouTube demonetization and the struggling skateboard industry, noting …AI summary
Dan and Ellis discuss the challenges of YouTube demonetization and the struggling skateboard industry, noting that while interest in skating is high, monetization is difficult due to oversaturation and free content. The conversation shifts to humorous anecdotes about embarrassing bathroom incidents, military appearance stereotypes, and childhood injuries, before concluding with plans for a collaborative gaming stream.
Key takeaways 5
YouTube demonetization is increasingly unpredictable, with creators often receiving yellow or red dollar signs without clear reasons, forcing them to ignore algorithmic signals and focus on organic audience retention.
The skateboard industry is at an all-time low for athlete earnings due to oversaturation (half a million pros vs. 10 in the 80s), making it difficult for skate companies to sell pro models and forcing athletes to rely on non-skate sponsorships like energy drinks or Nike.
Skate shops have shifted from selling hard goods (boards) to clothing as their primary revenue source because margins on boards are bad and local customers often buy from Amazon instead.
Modern skaters often need day jobs to pay rent, unlike the 90s where Tony Hawk could make money solely from skating, though today's top athletes have diversified income streams outside of traditional skate sponsorships.
Streaming platforms like Kick are gaining traction due to large financial deals (e.g., Kai Cenat's $100 million deal), but content creators warn against becoming 'brain dead' by streaming 24/7 just for clip farming.
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“The bigger issue is our hunch... just that the algorithm is not leading people to us. It's not so much about making money off the videos it's just that YouTube is like if people come and look for it it's there but we're not advertising it to people.”
▶ 2:15Dan explains that demonetization is less about losing ad revenue and more about the algorithm hiding their content from new viewers.
“In the 80s there was like 10 Pros so the only skateboards that were for sale was 10 different boards and there was millions of skateboarding... now it's half a million pros and so you don't sell a lot of skateboards.”
▶ 5:00Ellis explains the economic saturation of the skateboard industry compared to its peak in the 1980s.
“Content turns you into a soulless [__]... clip farming... doing random [__] throughout the day that's like clearly to get a clip out of it.”
▶ 57:45Dan criticizes modern streamers who sacrifice authenticity and mental health for viral clips and money.
“I think I know like some like I feel like jackass brought a lot of people to skating people like sell the al like lightning rod to attract people to the sport.”
▶ 6:17Dan suggests that mainstream media exposure like Jackass is necessary to drive interest back into skateboarding.
“There's still some people but it's barely any... Tony back in the 90s was only famous in skateboarding if Tony was only famous in skateboarding now he would still have to go get a job.”
▶ 5:57Ellis contrasts the financial viability of being a pro skater in the 90s versus today.
Chapters & Sections (47)▼
0:00Discussion about YouTube Demonetization and Algorithmchapter3
0:00Discussion about YouTube Demonetization and Algorithm
2:53YouTube Demonetization and Content Creation Challenges
4:21Struggling Skateboarders and Industry Oversaturation
7:29Skateboard Industry Business Challenges and Opportunitieschapter2
7:29Skateboard Industry Business and Sponsorship Challenges
9:21Energy Drink Marketing and Branding Ideas
12:25Tiger Costume and Anime Discussionchapter2
12:25Tiger Costume and Anime Discussion
14:22Comparing Animal Hygiene and Human Behavior
17:18Embarrassing Bathroom Incident at Homechapter2
17:18Embarrassing Bathroom Incident at Home
19:40Conversation about Body Image and Relationships
21:27Conversation about Military Service and Appearancechapter3
21:27Conversation about Military Service and Appearance
23:11Conversation about Injuries and Boat Launching
25:19Difficulty in Starting a Fire by Hand
27:17Childhood Trauma and Emotional Distresschapter2
27:17Childhood Trauma and Emotional Distress
29:43Childhood Bullying and Humiliation Experiences Shared
31:28Discussing Holiday Treats and Sponsorshipschapter2
31:28Daily Fantasy Sports and Product Reviews
33:23Miracle Made Self Cleaning Sheets Review
36:16Argumentative Conversation About Pop Culturechapter2
36:16Argumentative Conversation About Pop Culture
38:39Discussion about Star Wars and Pop Culture
40:55Car Accident and Fart Humor Discussionchapter2
40:55Car Accident and Fart Humor Discussion
43:07Fart Conversation Between Friends
45:20Comedian Reflects on Past Performance Experiencechapter4
45:20Comedian Reflects on Past Performance Experience
47:40Sharing Podcasting Experience and Growth
48:57Comedian Appreciation and Personal Growth
50:42Confrontation with a Fan at The Improv
52:57Comedian's Upcoming Tour and Personal Lifechapter4
52:57Comedian's Upcoming Shows and Personal Life
54:44Holiday Plans and Gaming Conversations
56:09Video Game Streaming Discussion
57:40Criticism of Streamers and Clip Farming
59:21Call of Duty Online Gaming and Swattingchapter3
59:21Call of Duty Online Gaming and Threats
1:01:08Alcoholism and Gaming with Australian Perspective
1:02:24Discussing Streaming Platforms and Monetization Options
1:04:16Planning Podcast and Twitch Streaming Schedulechapter3
1:04:16Planning Podcast Schedule and Discuss Family