About this episodeTommy Lee discusses the evolution of the music industry, advocating for a return to creating new albums rather…AI summary
Tommy Lee discusses the evolution of the music industry, advocating for a return to creating new albums rather than relying on nostalgia, while embracing new technologies like AI and Dolby Atmos. He reflects on Mötley Crüe's unique identity, the challenges of touring and band dynamics, and the importance of artistic freedom and free speech in an increasingly polarized world.
Key takeaways 5
Music Industry Saturation: Spotify releases approximately 200,000 songs a day, creating an impossible landscape for listeners and hurting the 'musical middle class' who can no longer make a living from touring or streaming revenue.
Dolby Atmos Adoption: Dolby Atmos is becoming mainstream through integration in major car manufacturers (Mercedes, Cadillac, Rivian, Tesla), offering a 3D spatial audio experience that engages listeners differently than traditional stereo.
Rock Resurgence: There is a growing demographic of young fans attending rock concerts, driven by a desire for heavier sounds (D-tuned guitars) and authentic rebellion, suggesting rock is poised for a comeback after a 15-20 year pop dominance.
AI as a Creative Tool: Lee views AI neutrally, citing its use in remixing his 2005 album 'Tommyland: The Ride' and reimagining artwork, emphasizing that AI should augment human creativity rather than replace it.
Band Longevity Philosophy: Lee argues that bands must create new music to stay relevant, comparing artists to movie stars who need new films to maintain their career trajectory, rather than operating as museums of past hits.
Notable quotes 5AI-generated: wording and quote attribution may be wrong. Use the play link to verify.
“The crew as an institution is completely its own animal. You guys have played by your own rules. When everybody is going right, we're going left.”
▶ 36:02Describing Mötley Crüe's unique position in the music industry and their rebellious nature.
“You're only as good as your last effort. I'm not big on like relying on what you've done in the past... We got to make magic.”
▶ 1:00:27Lee's argument for why bands should continue recording new albums instead of just touring on nostalgia.
“I am not listening to music. I am in the museum... It's begging for this. This is how it should have always sounded.”
▶ 20:53Lee's reaction to experiencing Dolby Atmos sound for the first time at a PMC studio.
“Banding in a band is being married to three people you don't like... But they're your people.”
Quoting Darcy from The Smashing Pumpkins to describe the complex but enduring relationships within a long-running band.
“If you don't believe in free speech you're basically willing to have your gig blown up.”
▶ 1:11:30Lee's metaphorical stance on the importance of artistic freedom and free speech, referencing being banned by the BBC.
Chapters & Sections (32)▼
0:00AI in Music and Industry Evolutionchapter2
1:54Artist Collaboration on AI 3D Artwork
3:29AI Music Tools and Industry Gratitude
6:06Music Industry Challenges and Rock's Resurgencechapter2
8:11Nikki Sixx Buys Back Catalog
9:34Pop Dominance and Rock's Resurgence
12:20Guitar Plugins, Touring Cessation, and Recording Vibeschapter1
14:30Mötley Crüe Touring and Blood Signing
16:28Tommy Lee's Drumming Technique and Atmos Mixingchapter1
19:26Tommy Land Rides Atmos Remaster
20:53Dolby Atmos Music Production and Spatial Audiochapter1
23:30Dolby Atmos Adoption in Cars and Music
26:24Mötley Crüe's Early Sunset Strip Dayschapter2
28:01Naive Realization of Success
29:31Mötley Crue's Formation and Musical Roots
32:42Vince Neil's Voice and Music Evolutionchapter4
34:52Musical Interlude and Performance
36:02Admiring Bowie and Prince's Career Evolution
38:39Mötley Crüe's Glam Pivot and Theater of Pain
40:17Tommy Lee on Shout of the Devil
42:20Early Music Discovery and Band Longevitychapter1
44:08Band Longevity and Mutual Respect
46:58Mick Mars Guitar Skills and Health Struggleschapter1
48:27Mick Mars Health Struggles and Public Perception
51:45John 5 joining Mötley Crue and The Dirt bookchapter1
53:48The Dirt book and movie impact
56:52Mötley Crue New Music and Album Strategychapter1
58:18Rock Comeback and New Album Strategy
1:00:50Music Business Evolution and Modern Rebellionchapter1
1:04:02Defining Modern Musical Rebellion
1:06:22Artists Political Expression and Free Speechchapter1
1:10:40Echo Chambers and Free Speech Defense
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