Tommy Lee | The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan

The Magnificent Others with Billy Corgan
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About this episode Tommy Lee discusses the evolution of the music industry, advocating for a return to creating new albums rather… AI summary

Tommy Lee discusses the evolution of the music industry, advocating for a return to creating new albums rather than relying on nostalgia, while embracing new technologies like AI and Dolby Atmos. He reflects on Mötley Crüe's unique identity, the challenges of touring and band dynamics, and the importance of artistic freedom and free speech in an increasingly polarized world.

Key takeaways 5
  • Music Industry Saturation: Spotify releases approximately 200,000 songs a day, creating an impossible landscape for listeners and hurting the 'musical middle class' who can no longer make a living from touring or streaming revenue.
  • Dolby Atmos Adoption: Dolby Atmos is becoming mainstream through integration in major car manufacturers (Mercedes, Cadillac, Rivian, Tesla), offering a 3D spatial audio experience that engages listeners differently than traditional stereo.
  • Rock Resurgence: There is a growing demographic of young fans attending rock concerts, driven by a desire for heavier sounds (D-tuned guitars) and authentic rebellion, suggesting rock is poised for a comeback after a 15-20 year pop dominance.
  • AI as a Creative Tool: Lee views AI neutrally, citing its use in remixing his 2005 album 'Tommyland: The Ride' and reimagining artwork, emphasizing that AI should augment human creativity rather than replace it.
  • Band Longevity Philosophy: Lee argues that bands must create new music to stay relevant, comparing artists to movie stars who need new films to maintain their career trajectory, rather than operating as museums of past hits.
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  • “The crew as an institution is completely its own animal. You guys have played by your own rules. When everybody is going right, we're going left.”
    ▶ 36:02 Describing Mötley Crüe's unique position in the music industry and their rebellious nature.
  • “You're only as good as your last effort. I'm not big on like relying on what you've done in the past... We got to make magic.”
    ▶ 1:00:27 Lee's argument for why bands should continue recording new albums instead of just touring on nostalgia.
  • “I am not listening to music. I am in the museum... It's begging for this. This is how it should have always sounded.”
    ▶ 20:53 Lee's reaction to experiencing Dolby Atmos sound for the first time at a PMC studio.
  • “Banding in a band is being married to three people you don't like... But they're your people.”
    Quoting Darcy from The Smashing Pumpkins to describe the complex but enduring relationships within a long-running band.
  • “If you don't believe in free speech you're basically willing to have your gig blown up.”
    ▶ 1:11:30 Lee's metaphorical stance on the importance of artistic freedom and free speech, referencing being banned by the BBC.

Chapters & Sections (32)

0:00 AI in Music and Industry Evolution chapter 2
1:54 Artist Collaboration on AI 3D Artwork
3:29 AI Music Tools and Industry Gratitude
6:06 Music Industry Challenges and Rock's Resurgence chapter 2
8:11 Nikki Sixx Buys Back Catalog
9:34 Pop Dominance and Rock's Resurgence
12:20 Guitar Plugins, Touring Cessation, and Recording Vibes chapter 1
14:30 Mötley Crüe Touring and Blood Signing
16:28 Tommy Lee's Drumming Technique and Atmos Mixing chapter 1
19:26 Tommy Land Rides Atmos Remaster
20:53 Dolby Atmos Music Production and Spatial Audio chapter 1
23:30 Dolby Atmos Adoption in Cars and Music
26:24 Mötley Crüe's Early Sunset Strip Days chapter 2
28:01 Naive Realization of Success
29:31 Mötley Crue's Formation and Musical Roots
32:42 Vince Neil's Voice and Music Evolution chapter 4
34:52 Musical Interlude and Performance
36:02 Admiring Bowie and Prince's Career Evolution
38:39 Mötley Crüe's Glam Pivot and Theater of Pain
40:17 Tommy Lee on Shout of the Devil
42:20 Early Music Discovery and Band Longevity chapter 1
44:08 Band Longevity and Mutual Respect
46:58 Mick Mars Guitar Skills and Health Struggles chapter 1
48:27 Mick Mars Health Struggles and Public Perception
51:45 John 5 joining Mötley Crue and The Dirt book chapter 1
53:48 The Dirt book and movie impact
56:52 Mötley Crue New Music and Album Strategy chapter 1
58:18 Rock Comeback and New Album Strategy
1:00:50 Music Business Evolution and Modern Rebellion chapter 1
1:04:02 Defining Modern Musical Rebellion
1:06:22 Artists Political Expression and Free Speech chapter 1
1:10:40 Echo Chambers and Free Speech Defense

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