About this episodeStephen Carpenter discusses Deftones' touring logistics, revealing he avoids flying due to fear and uses a sub…AI summary
Stephen Carpenter discusses Deftones' touring logistics, revealing he avoids flying due to fear and uses a substitute guitarist for international dates while performing domestically. The conversation shifts to cultural observations on drinking habits, the decline of drunk driving laws, and the health impacts of substance abuse, culminating in a philosophical debate on flat earth theories and the nature of reality.
Key takeaways 4
Deftones utilize a substitute guitarist named Lance for international tours because Stephen Carpenter stopped flying due to fear; Lance handles backup vocals and specific guitar parts but does not replace Carpenter's lead style.
Drinking culture has shifted from the 1980s/90s where driving after work with a beer was normalized, to a modern environment with drive-through liquor stores and 'road beers' in thermal cups, leading to higher rates of impaired driving.
Carpenter compares the human body to a plant, noting that neglecting health and substance abuse causes long-term damage that takes years to recover from, emphasizing that 'you cannot consistently live a life where you just don't give a f***.'
Carpenter holds a flat earth belief system, arguing that gravity is a theory and that space imagery is CGI, using this as a framework to discuss the existence of God and the unpredictability of human behavior.
Notable quotes 4AI-generated: wording and quote attribution may be wrong. Use the play link to verify.
“I stopped flying. I just made a choice to no longer fly. Like I don't want to do it.”
Carpenter explains why he does not tour internationally with the band, relying on a substitute guitarist instead.
“Your body is as delicate as a [__] plant, bro. It's so easy to [__] yourself. A little bit of [__] water that's a little bit off... bad pH water, bro. Hours hours hours go by and you'll see that [__] dying.”
▶ 27:28Carpenter uses a plant analogy to explain how neglecting health and hydration leads to long-term physical deterioration.
“You can't compare... I'm saying one out of four cars at 5:00 is under the influence of something.”
▶ 22:14Discussion on the prevalence of impaired driving during evening commute hours.
“This is God's realm. This is God's realm. Everything in this existence... It's not a sphere. That's a fact.”
▶ 01:21:19Carpenter articulates his flat earth belief, linking it to his spiritual view of God.
Chapters & Sections (246)▼
08:38Addressing Homophobic Language and Microaggressionschapter
13:32Conspiracy Theories and Personal Attackschapter2
13:32Conspiracy Theories and Personal Relationships
14:10Celebrity Roommate and Podcast Shenanigans
15:02Deftones Touring and Live Performance Dynamicschapter6
15:02Tour Logistics and Band Scheduling
15:42Band Member Roles and Responsibilities
16:15Comparing Guitarists' Skills and Musical Influences
16:39Collaboration and Friendship in the Music Industry
17:13Touring and International Music Performances
17:39Fear of Flying and Alternative Travel Options
18:26Changes in Drinking Culture and Lawschapter3
18:26Near-Death Experience and Its Impact on Life
19:02Changes in Drinking and Driving Laws Over Time
19:43Childhood Memories of Visiting Liquor Stores
20:09Drive-Through Liquor Stores and Excessive Drinkingchapter2
20:09Drive-Through Liquor Stores and Social Life
20:52Excessive Drinking Habits and Alcoholism
21:23Impaired Driving Statistics and Road Safety Concernschapter
22:50Working Class Drinking Habits and Beer Preferenceschapter2
22:50Cultural Significance of Road Beers and Thermal Cups
23:41Importance of Cold Beverages for Hydration
24:29The Dangers of Excessive Party Culturechapter
25:56The Importance of Self-Care and Recoverychapter3
25:56Recovery from Prolonged Party Lifestyle
26:27Importance of Self-Care and Environmental Responsibility
26:49Caring for Indoor Plants and Leaf Drop
27:18Importance of pH Balance in Human Healthchapter
28:51Conspiracy Theories and Royal Family Scandalschapter
31:00The Struggle of Modern Life and Financial Stresschapter3
31:00The Difference Between Creative and Mundane Labor
31:33Parking Tickets and Vehicle Impoundment
32:18Mental Health and Financial Struggles
32:50The Erosion of Purchasing Power in Modern Societychapter2
32:50Financial Disconnection and Value Perception
33:19Rising Cost of Living and Inflation
34:05Rising Cost of Living and Financial Struggleschapter3
34:05Rise of Cashless Transactions in Society
34:39Concealing Alcohol in a Stadium
35:03Sports Event Ticket Discussion and Sales
35:27Professional Sports Betting and Gambling Habitschapter2
35:27Sports Betting and Personal Preferences
36:16Gambling and High-Stakes Games
36:43Rare Cannabis Strain and Collecting Habitschapter2
36:43Rare Cannabis Strain Discovery and Sharing
37:14Sharing a Prize Possession and Event Plans
37:51Tailgating and Pre-Game Party Supplieschapter2
37:51Discussing a Local Cannabis Dispensary Experience
39:02Pre-Game Drinking Strategies and Personal Tolerance
39:33Excessive Drinking and Party Culturechapter3
39:33Street Etiquette and Social Interactions
39:55Music Industry and Substance Abuse
40:16Excessive Drinking and Peer Pressure
40:44Embarrassing Tour Stories and Personal Experienceschapter
42:13Challenging Meet and Greet Experience on Tourchapter4
42:13Pre-Show Meet and Greet Experiences
42:54Overcoming Creative Burnout and Self-Doubt
43:22Meet and Greet Experience on Tour
43:55Fan Interactions at Music Festivals
44:46Overcoming Stage Fright and Performance Anxietychapter4
44:46Overcoming Stage Fright and Performance Anxiety
46:25Backstage Bathroom Hygiene and Emergency Situations
46:52Overcoming Adversity and Unexpected Life Situations
47:27Contemplating Homelessness and Personal Struggles
48:10Embarrassing Bathroom Experiences and Humorchapter3
48:10Embarrassing Moments of Public Toilet Accidents
48:54The Reality of Having a Bad Day
49:13Overcoming Urgent Bathroom Needs in Crowded Events
49:51Festival Mishaps and Unfortunate Situationschapter2
49:51Festival Mishaps and Car Maintenance
50:38Accidents Happen Even with Precautions in Place
51:07Embarrassing Bathroom Accidents and Childhood Memorieschapter
52:35Homeless Encounters and Confrontationschapter3
52:35Homeless Encounter with Aggressive Behavior
53:01Morning After a Night Out in Downtown
53:28Homeless Encounters and Aggressive Behavior
54:04Moral Outrage and Social Etiquettechapter
55:13Traveling to Enemy Countries Hypotheticallychapter
56:26The Reality of Traveling to Authoritarian Countrieschapter2
56:26The Benefits and Challenges of International Travel
56:59Critique of Authoritarian Regimes and Luxury
57:40Travel Destinations and Cultural Comparisonschapter2
57:40Imagining a Korean Castle Takeover Scenario
57:57Comparing Oregon to Tropical Vacation Destinations
58:54Comparing Oregon and Hawaii Beacheschapter2
58:54Comparing Oregon and California Beaches
59:28Comparing Natural Beauty of Hawaii and Oregon
01:00:08Globalization and Homogenization of Urban Culturechapter2
01:00:08Cultural Homogenization and Travel Experiences
01:00:50Globalization and Homogenization of Urban Life
01:01:54Urban Life and City Culture Observationschapter
01:03:30Urban vs Rural Life: Human Nature and Predictabilitychapter3
01:03:30The Struggle of City Life and Materialism
01:03:57Comparing City and Country Life Dynamics
01:04:17Human Nature and Predictability in Society
01:04:37Information Overload and Memory in Modern Societychapter2
01:04:37The Futility of Human Memory and News Cycle
01:05:06Comparing Mass Shootings and Conspiracy Theories
01:05:59Social Media Manipulation and Public Reactionchapter2
01:05:59Media Manipulation and the Dumbing Down Society
01:07:18Celebrity Life and Party Invitations
01:08:18Government Raids and Social Unrestchapter3
01:08:18Government Raids and Their Consequences Explained
01:08:54Consequences of Climate Change and Social Chaos
01:09:18Global Chaos and the Future of Humanity
01:09:42Pedophilia and Elite Abuse Allegationschapter3
01:09:42Prioritizing Personal Life and Career
01:10:03Elvis Presley's Personal Life and Relationships
01:10:30Prevalence of Pedophilia and Child Exploitation
01:11:00The Rise of New Power Structures Everywherechapter
01:12:11The Psychology of Unaccountability and Corruptionchapter2
01:12:11Consequences of Unchecked Power and Corruption
01:12:45The Influence of Blackmail in High-Stakes Decision Making
01:13:24Sex Trafficking and Elite Pedophilia Ringschapter
01:14:32Pedophilia and Child Exploitation in Elite Circleschapter
01:16:33Importance of Caring About Uncovered Islandschapter5
01:16:33The Power of Dopamine and Human Connection
01:17:12Importance of Preserving Known Islands
01:17:35Importance of Investigating Child Exploitation Cases
01:18:04Addressing Online Harassment and Accountability
01:18:26The Impact of Remakes on Original Content
01:18:44Importance of Family and Personal Responsibilitychapter4
01:18:44Importance of Personal Stability in Helping Others
01:19:44Importance of Reproduction and Family Planning
01:20:16Flat Earth Theory and Its Core Beliefs
01:22:08Flat Earthers and Conspiracy Theories
01:22:36Flat Earth Theories and Skepticismchapter2
01:22:36Flat Earth Theories and Lunar Landing Skepticism
01:23:24Flat Earth Beliefs and Social Media Influence
01:23:48Gravity and Buoyancy Theories Explainedchapter
01:25:10Dealing with Unpredictable and Frightening Situationschapter
01:26:45Beliefs on Reincarnation and Alien Existencechapter
01:28:18Paranormal Experiences and Spiritualitychapter2
01:28:18Paranormal Experiences and Spirituality
01:29:37Existence of God and Reality
01:31:07Doubts About the Accuracy of Scientific Informationchapter1
01:31:07Doubts About the Accuracy of Scientific Information
01:32:26Astrology and Time Cycles Explainedchapter2
01:32:26Astrological Alignments and Timekeeping Theories
01:33:20Astrology and the Age of Aquarius
01:33:54The Significance of Human Existence in Spacechapter3
01:33:54The Significance of Space in Believing in God
01:34:57Feeling of insignificance in the universe
01:35:19The Significance of Human Existence in Space
01:36:02Challenging Mainstream Narratives and Physics Theorieschapter2
01:36:02Conspiracy Theories and the Power of Perception
01:37:12Perception vs Reality in Physical Phenomena
01:38:02Distrust of Authority and Conspiracy Theorieschapter
01:39:08The Effects of Aging on Physical Appearancechapter
01:40:22AI-generated Images and Deepfakeschapter
01:41:32Transphobic Comments and Misunderstandings in Publicchapter
01:42:42Flat Earth and Space Beliefschapter
01:44:13AI Misconceptions and Human Interactionchapter2
01:44:13The Absurdity of AI and Human Interaction
01:44:51Experimenting with AI Chatbots and Generative Content
01:45:29Racism in Comedy as a Tool for Social Commentarychapter
01:46:59Casino Poker vs Home Gameschapter2
01:46:59Managing Friendships and Business Conflicts
01:47:27Casino Poker vs House Games Preferences
01:48:25Casino Games and Poker Etiquettechapter
01:49:30Autograph Signatures and Meet and Greet Experienceschapter2
01:49:30Meet and Greet Experiences with Deftones Fans
01:50:16Fan Expectations and Celebrity Life
01:50:48Meet and Greet Strategies for Super Fanschapter1
01:50:48Meet and Greet Strategies for Super Fans
01:52:07Chaos and Frustration on a Grammy Nominated Albumchapter
01:53:30Conventions and Festival Experiences Gone Wrongchapter
01:54:48DUI Drivers and Nitrous Oxide Usechapter2
01:54:48Availability and Accessibility of Illicit Substances
01:55:06Near-Miss Biking Incident and Nitrous Oxide Use
01:56:16Merchandise and Community Support Discussionchapter
01:57:24Band Etiquette and Fan Engagementchapter
01:58:54Authenticity and Research in Podcast Guest Selectionchapter3
01:58:54Importance of Authenticity in Podcast Invitations
01:59:36Authenticity in Online Relationships and Friendships
02:00:16Dealing with Online Backlash and Criticism
02:00:32Embracing Personal Growth and Self-Awarenesschapter2
02:00:32Embracing Personal Growth from Mistakes and Failures
02:01:30Embarrassing Moments in Music Video Filming
02:01:54Dealing with Public Judgment and Criticismchapter2
02:01:54Dealing with Criticism and Public Perception
02:02:23Authenticity and Self-Acceptance in Music
02:03:05Guitar Collection and Endorsement Dealschapter
02:04:33Touring Gear and Equipment Managementchapter3
02:04:33Touring Gear Logistics and Equipment Management
02:05:22Guitar Pedals and Equipment Collection
02:06:10Guitar Collection and Personalized Signature Models
02:07:05Comedy Show at a Pizza Restaurantchapter
02:08:14Chaos at a Weezer Concert After Partychapter
02:09:55Rock Band's Excessive Party Habits and Business Impactchapter
02:11:08Cannabis Product Availability and Quality Controlchapter
02:13:05Social Drinking Habits and Personal Freedomchapter
02:14:22Dangers of Drinking and Driving on Tourchapter3
02:14:22Dangers of Driving Under the Influence
02:14:57Early Days of Touring and Band Dynamics
02:15:25The Risks of Excessive Substance Use
02:15:49Tour and Concert Ticket Sales Discussionchapter
02:17:01Flavors of Coca-Cola and Cocaine Comparisonchapter
02:18:32Dangers of Driving Under the Influencechapter2
02:18:32Driving Under the Influence of Marijuana
02:19:37Dangers of Driving During Peak Hours
02:20:06The Frustrations of Rush Hour Trafficchapter2
02:20:06The Frustrations of Morning Commute Traffic
02:20:53Avoiding the Rush of Life's Challenges
02:21:33Vaping Habits and Roadside Discard Practiceschapter2
02:21:33Casino and Vape Pen Waste Management
02:22:07Vaping Experiences and Propane Tank Comparison
02:22:51Environmental Impact of Littering and Personal Responsibilitychapter
02:24:12Taxes and Financial Struggles in Music Industrychapter2
02:24:12Financial Burden of High Taxes
02:24:36Financial Management for Musicians
02:25:20Tax Evasion and IRA Discussionchapter2
02:25:20Tax Evasion and IRA Avoidance Strategies
02:26:01Music Industry and Upcoming Album Release
02:26:51The Physics of Air Travel and Propulsionchapter
02:29:26Hypothetical Situations and Moral Responsibilitychapter
02:30:48Celebrity Absences and Personal Lifechapter2
02:30:48Celebrity Absences and Excuses Explained
02:31:30Celebrity Teeth and Cosmetic Procedures
02:32:09Dental Veneers and Implant Experienceschapter1
02:32:09Dental Veneers and Whitening Treatment Experiences
02:33:23Dental Veneer Experience and Maintenancechapter3
02:33:23Dental Implant Maintenance and Replacement Issues
02:34:07Experiencing Health Issues During the Pandemic
02:34:39Challenges of Creative Projects and Financial Stability
02:35:20Importance of Regular Dental Maintenancechapter2
02:35:20Importance of Dental Health and Maintenance
02:36:05Comparing Material Possessions and Social Status
02:36:40Social Media and Online Misinformationchapter
02:38:04Inflation and Economic Challenges in Argentinachapter
02:40:27Humorous Storytelling about Bathroom Prankschapter
02:41:54Digestive Health and Gut Bacteriachapter
02:43:36Upcoming Travel Plans and Personal Experienceschapter
02:45:10Experiences in Abandoned or Haunted Placeschapter
02:46:23Fan Engagement and Community Discussionchapter
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