About this episodeMathhoffer discusses the tension between lyrical complexity and mass appeal, citing Ransom's 'The Price of Cla…AI summary
Mathhoffer discusses the tension between lyrical complexity and mass appeal, citing Ransom's 'The Price of Clarity' as an example of music for connoisseurs rather than the masses. He also shares industry insights on DJ payola, his failed battle rap negotiations with Easy Mac, and provides technical advice on song structure and writing flows.
Key takeaways 6
Lyrical Complexity vs. Mass Appeal: Artists like Ransom create music for 'connoisseurs' and other rappers, which may limit mainstream accessibility. Mathhoffer questions if there is a balance needed to reach wider audiences without losing respect.
Defining Musical Classics: The guest argues that Kendrick Lamar's 'good kid, m.A.A.d city' is a classic, challenging the notion that only commercially massive albums achieve this status. The discussion highlights that audience feedback and personal taste play significant roles in defining classics.
Industry Distrust and Authenticity: Mathhoffer expresses deep distrust of industry networking, stating he doesn't drink at industry parties or hang with industry people due to past betrayals ('stab wounds in my back'). He values artists like Flex and K-Slay who played his music without asking for money.
DJ Industry Shifts: The traditional model of DJs taking pride in breaking records has shifted to a payola model where DJs demand payment. Mathhoffer notes that while some DJs require payment, others like Flex, Self, and K-Slay supported him organically.
Song Structure Education: Mathhoffer clarifies that a 'hook' is not always the 'chorus.' A hook is any part of the song that catches the listener's ear and sticks in their mind, which may or may not appear between verses.
Writing Flow Technique: For lyricists who freestyle, Mathhoffer recommends finding the flow by mumbling or harmonizing over the beat first to identify pockets, then recording that vocal pattern and filling it in with written words to ensure the flow matches the rhythm.
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“I don't drink at industry parties. I can't trust it. I don't hang with industry [__] I don't feel them. Too many stab wounds in my back I got to heal from.”
▶ 17:56Mathhoffer explaining his distrust of industry networking and preference for authentic relationships over professional connections.
“A hook may or may not appear in between verses. Some may have a hook that leads into a chorus. The hook is anything that's going to catch you... It sticks in your mind.”
▶ 1:02:29Mathhoffer educating the audience on the technical difference between a hook and a chorus, noting that hooks are defined by their catchiness rather than their position in the song.
“If you are someone who appreciates lyricist then you know you really listen... but there's still a kind of disconnect with the masses. And I don't think he's making music for the masses.”
▶ 7:15Mathhoffer discussing Ransom's album 'The Price of Clarity' and the challenge of balancing lyrical depth with mainstream appeal.
“I'm somewhere ducking all these [__] lanes. When they catch you laid out, I'm on the [__] plane.”
▶ 20:34Lyrics from Mathhoffer's own track being played, illustrating his theme of staying ahead of enemies and avoiding industry drama.
Chapters & Sections (27)▼
0:17Lyrical Complexity vs Mass Appealchapter2
4:01Shoutouts and Technical Support
5:48Ransom's Lyrical Complexity and Mass Appeal
9:42Defining Musical Classics and Audience Feedbackchapter2
11:49Teasing Musical Classic Status
13:18Audience Feedback on Musical Classics
15:39Industry Distrust and Authenticity in Rapchapter1
19:33Street Credibility and Authenticity Claims
21:37Open Mic Queue Management and App Supportchapter1
24:44Verifying Open Mic Queue Status
28:13Battle Rap Negotiations and DJ Industry Shiftschapter1
31:35DJ Payment Practices and Industry Respect
34:47Overcoming Boredom Through New Experienceschapter2
37:56Promoting Music Submission Platform Nero Fan
39:24Consequences of Street Life and Sin
40:59Audio Check and Personal Tragedy Reflectionschapter1
43:54Homemade Lemonade and Tarantino Rap
46:24Open Mic Rap Performances and Reactionschapter1
48:51Alex Werdo and Bunny B Apocalypse Performance
52:26Apocalypse Song Analysis and FRN Blazer Trackchapter
58:26Music Theory and Songwriting Techniqueschapter3
1:02:18Understanding Hooks and Flow in Songwriting
1:05:22Lyrical Themes of Independence
1:07:18Open Mic Performance and Crowd Interaction
1:08:47Audio Glitches and Rap Lyricschapter2
1:11:15Audio Glitches and Technical Troubleshooting
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