We Don't CALAVERA the Same with Reverie and Steftones of Deftones

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About this episode The podcast features a multifaceted conversation covering music industry evolution, personal health discoverie… AI summary

The podcast features a multifaceted conversation covering music industry evolution, personal health discoveries, and controversial theories. Reverie discusses her transition from aggressive rap to melodic singing, citing audience resistance to change and the strategic release of her album 'Sometimes I Like to Sing'. The hosts and guest engage in extensive discussions regarding Flat Earth theory, paranormal experiences including ghost hunting equipment, and the realities of online harassment faced by female artists.

Key takeaways 5
  • Musical Evolution Strategy: Reverie explains that changing her sound from boom-bap rap to melodic singing was initially met with resistance because 'people don't like when you change'. She addressed this by creating a cohesive project titled 'Sometimes I Like to Sing' to help listeners understand the progression.
  • Health Self-Diagnosis: Reverie discovered her gluten allergy not through blood work, but by observing that joint inflammation disappeared while on the keto diet, leading her to eliminate gluten. She also recently discovered lactose intolerance.
  • Flat Earth Geocentric Model: The guest argues for a geocentric model where the sun and moon spin above a stationary earth. Key evidence cited includes the inability to feel Earth's rotation (comparing it to unplugging a treadmill) and the claim that earthquakes occur in a three-hour window before and after dusk/dawn.
  • Artist Safety Protocols: Reverie emphasizes the necessity of personal security for female performers, noting she now requires security guards at every show due to physical harassment. She advises women to lie about having an Uber waiting to deter potential attackers in transit.
  • Paranormal Equipment: The hosts discuss specific ghost hunting devices, including a 'Spirit Box' for hearing voices and an 'Ovilus 5' ($500) which uses a glossary of words to spell out messages from spirits.
Notable quotes 4 AI-generated: wording and quote attribution may be wrong. Use the play link to verify.
  • “People don't like when you change. You know, a lot of people are uncomfortable with change. They want you to stay in the box they found you in.”
    ▶ 16:01 Reverie explaining the initial negative reception to her shift from rap to singing.
  • “We're going over 6 million miles per hour in four different directions and you can't feel it? I am wondering why the fuck we haven't crashed into anything like that.”
    ▶ 33:31 Xavier questioning the scientific consensus on Earth's rotation and orbital speeds.
  • “I have to have personal security. It sounds weird... just having a guy around changes a lot of things because it really does.”
    ▶ 1:48:53 Reverie discussing the safety measures required for female artists in the music industry.
  • “Belief is the enemy of knowing. Because when you know something, you don't have to believe it.”
    ▶ 47:21 Reverie referencing the philosophy of podcasters Crowd Triple Seven regarding skepticism and evidence.

Chapters & Sections (113)

12:03 Podcast Introduction and Guest Welcome chapter 4
12:03 Podcast Introduction and Host Banter
13:47 Artist's Musical Style Evolution and Influences
14:59 Evolution of an Artist's Musical Style
16:31 Evolution of Melodic Rap Style Preferences
17:51 Music Composition and Soundtrack Placement Techniques chapter 2
17:51 Music Composition and Soundtrack Placement Techniques
20:28 Managing Online Harassment and Fan Engagement
22:17 Discussion of Breast Implants and Allergies chapter 3
22:17 Discussion of Breast Implants and Allergies
23:53 Managing Food Allergies and Intolerances
25:23 Adjusting to a Restrictive Diet
26:36 Experiences with Online Harassment and Misogyny chapter 2
26:36 Experiences with Online Harassment and Misogyny
28:12 Live Streaming and Touring Preferences
30:45 Flat Earth Theory and Geocentric Cosmology chapter 2
30:45 Flat Earth Theories and Geocentric Models
33:38 Asteroid Visibility and Space Exploration Limitations
35:03 Space Exploration and Billionaire Motivations chapter 3
35:03 Debunking Space Exploration and Billionaire Motivations
36:32 Deception and Trust in Relationships
38:22 Conspiracy Theories and Space Exploration
40:10 Debunking the Flat Earth Theory chapter 2
40:10 Debunking the Flat Earth Theory
42:19 Simulation Theory and Multiverse Concepts
44:46 Flat Earth Theories and Astronomical Observations chapter 2
44:46 Flat Earth Theories and Astronomical Observations
46:34 Philosophy of Belief and Higher Consciousness
48:56 The Power of Collective Consciousness and Resonance chapter 2
48:56 The Power of Collective Consciousness and Sound
50:39 Consciousness and Energy Interconnectedness Theory
52:56 Paranormal Experiences and Spirit Encounters chapter 3
52:56 Paranormal Experiences and Spirit Encounters
55:13 Paranormal Experiences with Spirit Box and EVPs
56:34 Paranormal Experiences and Spirituality Discussed
57:49 Belief in Other Life Forms and Paranormal Activity chapter 2
57:49 Belief in Other Life Forms and Paranormal Activity
1:00:13 Vulnerability and Predator Instincts in Animals
1:03:13 Domestication and Adaptation of Wild Animals chapter 3
1:03:13 Domestication and Adaptation of Wild Animals
1:04:49 Human Adaptation to Unfamiliar Environments
1:06:02 Isolated Tribes and Uncontacted Indigenous Cultures
1:09:22 Homelessness and Urban Poverty in Developing Countries chapter 3
1:09:22 Comparing Living Standards in Developed and Developing Countries
1:10:50 Critique of Homeless Skyscraper Solution
1:12:14 Gambling on Reality TV and Street Life
1:13:42 Homelessness and Potential for Competitive Fighting chapter 2
1:13:42 Homeless Individuals as Potential Athletes
1:16:04 Supporting Homeless Individuals with Financial Assistance
1:18:19 Offering a Way Out of Street Life chapter 3
1:18:19 Offering a Way Out of Street Life
1:19:44 Homelessness and Reality TV Opportunities
1:21:06 Exploitation of Vulnerable Individuals in Fighting
1:22:52 Entrepreneurship and Small Business Operations chapter 5
1:22:52 Gift Giving and Personal Branding
1:24:27 Benefits of Investing in Screen Printing Equipment
1:26:04 Experiences with Bootlegging and International Shipping
1:27:27 Childhood Experiences with Glue and Accidents
1:28:47 Childhood Expectations vs Reality in Everyday Life
1:30:28 The Importance of Childhood Exploration and Learning chapter 3
1:30:28 The Importance of Childhood Exploration and Learning
1:31:45 Importance of Learning to Swim as a Safety Measure
1:33:26 Dangers of Swimming in the Ocean
1:35:10 Fish Intelligence and Captivity Debated chapter 3
1:35:10 Animal Intelligence and Captivity Debated
1:37:07 Human Limitations in Marine Environments
1:38:29 Encountering a Large and Powerful Snake
1:39:44 Encounters with Wild or Exotic Animals chapter 2
1:39:44 Encounters with Wild or Exotic Animals
1:41:34 Dealing with Aggressive Animals and Fans
1:44:03 Cyberbullying and Online Harassment in the Music Industry chapter 4
1:44:03 Cyberbullying and Online Harassment in the Music Industry
1:46:01 Dealing with Crazy and Aggressive Fan Behavior
1:47:44 Experiences at Underground Music Shows and Security
1:49:04 Safety Concerns for Solo Female Travelers
1:50:47 Second Amendment Rights and Personal Safety chapter 2
1:50:47 Second Amendment Rights and Personal Safety
1:53:27 Experiencing Munchies and Consuming High-Calorie Snacks
1:54:42 Criticizing Morrissey's Alleged Toxic and Racist Views chapter 3
1:54:42 Morrissey's Controversial Comments and Nazi Allegations
1:56:48 Criticisms of Disney and Childhood Entertainment
1:58:03 Censorship and Body Image in Children's Media
1:59:35 Body Positivity and Representation in Fashion chapter 3
1:59:35 Body Positivity and Representation in Fashion
2:01:02 Experiences in the Martial Arts Community
2:02:50 Sports Teams and Vintage Jerseys Discussion
2:04:24 Philosophy of Time and Reality Perception chapter 2
2:04:24 Philosophy of Time and Reality Perception
2:06:31 Arguments for Legalizing Recreational Cocaine Use
2:08:38 Raves and Substance Use Safety Measures chapter 2
2:08:38 Raves and Substance Use Safety Measures
2:11:00 Importance of Fan Support for Independent Artists
2:12:56 Artist's New Album and Creative Process chapter 2
2:12:56 Artist's New Album and Creative Process
2:15:09 Artistic Evolution and Fan Expectations
2:17:56 Social Media Shadow Bans and Online Harassment chapter 3
2:17:56 Social Media Censorship and Online Harassment
2:19:46 Dealing with Online Haters and Algorithm Issues
2:20:59 Maintaining and Caring for Jerseys
2:22:55 Resale Market and Vintage Clothing Trends chapter 2
2:22:55 Resale Market and Vintage Clothing Trends
2:25:19 Self-Doubt and Creative Judgment in Artistry
2:27:25 Money Sharing and Business Partnerships chapter 2
2:27:25 Financial Disagreements and Music Industry Expectations
2:29:09 Diversifying Music Genres and Appreciation
2:31:37 Celebrity Gossip and Pop Culture Conversations chapter 3
2:31:37 Celebrity Gossip and Pop Culture Conversations
2:33:14 Creating Chaos and Humor in Live Streams
2:35:08 Booking Makeup Artist for Holiday Events
2:36:39 Preserving Weed with Storage and Preservation Methods chapter 3
2:36:39 Preserving and Storing Cannabis for Optimal Quality
2:38:03 Mushroom Microdosing and Medicinal Effects
2:39:49 New Music and Upcoming Video Release

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