About this episodeThe Butcher and 38 Sp discuss the release of their collaborative album 'Stabbed and Shot 2', emphasizing their…AI summary
The Butcher and 38 Sp discuss the release of their collaborative album 'Stabbed and Shot 2', emphasizing their sustained hunger and consistency in the hip-hop industry compared to peers who faded. They highlight the cultural shift of New York's rap crown moving from Manhattan to Upstate, while sharing personal anecdotes about navigating major labels, overcoming drug-infested environments, and the career-boosting impact of freestyle performances.
Key takeaways 5
Career Longevity Strategy: The artists attribute their continued success to maintaining hunger and consistency over six years, contrasting themselves with rappers whose peak eras were short-lived.
Independent vs. Major Label: Benny The Butcher found that his 'original formula' of independence was superior, viewing his time with Death Row/Major labels as a 'victory lap' for the city rather than a creative fit.
Freestyle Impact: 38 Sp's freestyle performance significantly altered his career trajectory, motivating other 'dope boys' to pursue rap and proving his lyrical capabilities to a wider audience.
Cultural Shift in NY Hip-Hop: The 'crown' of New York rap has shifted from Manhattan to Upstate New York, with artists like Benny and 38 Sp representing this new era.
Survival in Adversity: Growing up in a drug-infested environment required extreme caution, such as hiding drugs from addicted family members who would target them for their stash.
Notable quotes 5AI-generated: wording and quote attribution may be wrong. Use the play link to verify.
“My original formula is the best formula... my work way better independent.”
▶ 4:39Benny The Butcher explaining why he prefers independent distribution over major label systems.
“The crown belongs Upstate... the crown is no longer in Manhattan... it's Upstate definitely.”
▶ 2:32Discussing the current state of New York hip-hop and where the most respected lyricism is coming from.
“Preserve yourself... stay out the way... keep my head above water and survive until my number was called.”
▶ 10:37Benny The Butcher's advice to his younger self about avoiding street trouble to ensure longevity in his career.
“We don't do it for viral moments... we do it for real moments that happen to go viral.”
▶ 21:19The host summarizing the authentic nature of the artists' approach to music and culture.
“Half the state switched their hustle up soon as they saw was rap on sway.”
▶ 8:21Lyrics from Benny The Butcher describing how his freestyle performance inspired others to leave street life for rap.
Chapters & Sections (42)▼
0:01Celebrating Success and Cultural Significance in Musicchapter4
0:01Personal Reflection on Cultural Significance
0:51Staying Focused on Music Career Success
1:28Celebrating Artists with Notoriety and Success
1:55Rivalry Between New York City and Upstate
3:00Discussing the Reunion of a Music Groupchapter2
3:00Discussion on Reuniting for New Album
3:54Reflection on Longevity in the Music Industry
4:31Navigating Independence in Music Industrychapter4
4:31Navigating Music Industry Independence
5:07Comparing Cooking Methods and Expertise
5:29Celebrity Congratulates Benny The Butcher Emmy Win
6:00Proudly Showcasing an Emmy Award
6:25Growing Up in a Drug-Infested Environmentchapter2
6:25The Butcher Wins Emy Award and Talks Career
7:19Growing Up in a Drug-Infested Family
8:05Artist Discusses Career Impact of Freestyle Performancechapter5
8:05Interview with a Rapper about Motivation
8:59Rapper's Influence on Young People
9:33Celebrity Discusses Past Performance and Legacy
10:01Career Advice from a Successful Individual
10:32Avoiding Street Life and Staying Safe
11:12Hip Hop Legends Discuss Dedication and Skillchapter2
11:12Respect for Established MCs and Their Journey
12:10Upstate New York Rap Performance
13:04Street Life of a High-End Entrepreneurchapter2
13:04Rapper Talks About Wealth and Success
13:37Street Life of a Young Runner
14:39Struggles with Depression and Financial Instabilitychapter3
14:39Financial Struggles and Regretful Business Decisions
15:16Truck Driver Life on the Road
15:55Conversational Tone and Language Used
16:29Appreciation for Loyal Fans and Communitychapter2
16:29Celebrity Expresses Gratitude and Appreciation
17:20Discussion of Regional Culture and Rap Music
18:15Exclusive Behind the Scenes Album Documentarychapter6