Tom Holland on SPIDER-MAN: BRAND NEW DAY, THE ODYSSEY, plus Kevin Feige & Amy Pascal!

Josh Horowitz
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About this episode Tom Holland reflects on his decade-long tenure as Spider-Man, discussing his evolution from a nervous 20-year-… AI summary

Tom Holland reflects on his decade-long tenure as Spider-Man, discussing his evolution from a nervous 20-year-old to a creative partner with significant input on 'Spider-Man: Brand New Day,' including pitching the 'spider puberty' concept. The interview also reveals behind-the-scenes details about the suit's engineering, the improvisation of his iconic 'I don't feel so good' line in Infinity War, and his vision for passing the mantle to Miles Morales.

Key takeaways 6
  • Tom Holland had significant creative input in 'Spider-Man: Brand New Day,' specifically pitching the concept of 'spider puberty' where Peter Parker develops new powers like fangs and venom spikes, though these were ultimately deemed too creepy for the target audience.
  • The physicality of the Spider-Man suit has evolved; the new suit features a zip at the back of the head allowing Tom to remove the mask to breathe, addressing safety concerns raised by co-stars Jacob Batalon and Zendaya about him choking during stunts.
  • Holland's confidence in landing the role stemmed not from blind faith but from a belief that he could portray the character authentically because he had cosplayed as Spider-Man since childhood, making it feel like a 'portrayal of myself' rather than a performance.
  • The famous 'I don't feel so good' line in Infinity War was likely improvised by Holland through an acting exercise of repeating phrases to access genuine emotion, combined with Robert Downey Jr.'s improvisation.
  • Tom Holland has a clear vision for how he will eventually pass the Spider-Man mantle to Miles Morales, a plan developed since the end of 'No Way Home,' though he acknowledges it will change.
  • Kevin Feige and Amy Pascal confirm that while they discussed integrating characters like Daredevil and Kingpin, rights issues prevented their inclusion, though they express hope for future collaborations like Venom.
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  • “I think he would make a great Spider-Man. I think he would really bring a lot of emotion. I think he would be a more brooding version of the character, which might be kind of interesting.”
    ▶ 0:08 Tom Holland discussing actor Timothy Sharla as an alternative casting choice for Spider-Man.
  • “It has always felt like a gift. And I love the people that I get to make it with... It has just been a positive experience in every way.”
    ▶ 10:14 Tom Holland explaining why playing Spider-Man has never felt like just a job to him over his 10-year tenure.
  • “I think my dad's a comedian, right? So having thick skin and growing up with people taking the mick out of you is like part of our upbringing. You know, my love language, I think, is taking the piss out of me.”
    ▶ 22:42 Tom Holland explaining his positive reaction to public jokes about him spoiling movie secrets.
  • “Go bigger, you go bigger, you keep escalating and because those three actors are so phenomenal because of what John and all you went smaller.”
    ▶ 49:40 Josh discussing how the producers chose to focus on Peter Parker personally after the massive scale of 'No Way Home' rather than escalating further.
  • “I have absolutely... [avoids eye contact]... That I have no idea what Secret Wars is about. And I think that that is by design because Marvel know I'm going on this press tour and that is their biggest asset and I think it's really important that no one ruins it.”
    Tom Holland deflecting questions about whether he will appear in the black symbiote suit for Secret Wars.

Chapters & Sections (27)

0:00 Spider-Man Brand New Day Podcast Intro chapter 2
2:02 Tom Holland Spider-Man History and MCU Context
4:17 Tom Holland on The Odyssey and Spider-Man
6:34 Spider-Man Role Evolution and Pressure chapter 2
8:37 Navigating Highs and Lows of Spider-Man Role
10:29 Shameful Meal Substitutions and Hule Sponsorship
12:01 Audition Process and Confidence in Role chapter 1
15:38 Audition Footage and Age Reflections
17:06 Spider-Man Suit Physicality and Design chapter 1
18:50 Spider-Man Suit Safety and Design Evolution
21:16 Spider-Man Suit Design and Secret Wars Rumors chapter 2
22:58 Tom Holland's Improvisation and Fan Excitement
24:41 Director Collaboration and Actor Improvisation
26:25 Spider-Man MCU Deal Uncertainty and Sony Spin-offs chapter 1
28:19 Sony Spin-offs and Spider-Man Universe Plans
31:04 Spider-Man: No Way Home Reflections and Future Ideas chapter 1
34:24 Spider-Man Puberty and Power Evolution
36:23 Spider-Man Future, Fred Astaire Biopic, and Random Questions chapter 2
38:20 Multiple Spider-Man Versions and DC Batman
39:48 Fred Astaire Biopic and Dog Preferences
42:53 Personal Preferences and Rapid Fire Questions chapter 1
44:40 Zenaia's Euphoria Praise and Tom's Confusion
46:55 Spider-Man MCU Integration and Future Risks chapter 4
49:16 Spider-Man Film Strategy and Character Rights
51:34 Spider-Man and Hulk Crossover Nostalgia
53:24 Tom Holland Casting and Casting Speculation
54:55 Blade Casting and Secret Wars Plans

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